hey sharrif! didnt know you were on this forum...i only see you on my350z.com, how ya been? still chasing birds?
hey sharrif! didnt know you were on this forum...i only see you on my350z.com, how ya been? still chasing birds?
60mph roll, sure thing.... roll, dig, whatever.... as a stated in the first post. Let's make it $50 though, deal? Oh yeah, I have a ugly dirty mustang...
is that with meth injection?Originally Posted by sharif@forge
My car is putting down about 600-650whp on pump gas....depending on what kind of dyno we measure it on. With race fuel....not really sure.
Lets be fair though...youre talking about a different generation of cars. In 1993, the VPC was the best and only way out there to really get imports to make big power. Also, there was nowhere near the selection of turbos that we have now. Regardless, people like Chris Kinard and Vinny Ten were making 600+ whp on stock motors by what...1996-97 or so? And, people did not know the limits of the stock motors, because it was hard to reach those limits. Once the AEM and other standalones became mainstream, the sky became the limit almost immediately. And, your talking about bone stock longblocks making well over 800 whp.It took the Supra guys many years to get to 1000whp....we're getting pretty darn close in just 1.5
The Z has been out for 3 years now, hasnt it?
Anyway, I didnt intend this to be a supra vs 350 debate, I just wanted to get my opinion out thereIve got a Z also, and I love them both. Ive seen your car and it sure seems like a sweet ride. Id like to try a run sometime also, if youre up for some photo ops.
^^hes right...it is ugly...
j/k
Lightspeed, the Z has been out for 3 years, but the first year was totally dead. Nobody even touched the cars. The first turbo kits were launched in Jan 2004, so ok...almost two years. But we were at 600whp more than a year ago. My car makes 600whp'ish, but others we have built for customers are in the mid 700's range. Either way, dyno numbers mean crap to me, becuase dynos can vary dramatically based on a myriad of factors.
But you are 100% correct. The stock VQ35 block is built with toothpics. The 2JZ is one of the strongest OEM motors ever made, and we've tuned our share of them too. The tight confines, and V engine configuration makes turbo selection and spacing a MAJOR issue, so we have different challenges to deal with, that were not a factor with the 2JZ crowd.
FAH, no money, and what kind of car do you have, and what type of setup are you running. The stuff we do to my car is 100% fully disclosed...just curious what you are running.
Oh, lightspeed, I have never had a water meth kit on my person car. Just running the HKS FCON VPro for tuning, and all the other goodies....no spray. Just two little turbos.
Its cool youre running an FCON...Ive heard those are the trick setups to have, presuming you have the patience to take it to an authorized tuner for it all the time. I dont guess you have the problem lol
Keep in mind that the 350 is starting with .5 liter more displacement, and it was developed with many years advancement in engine technology than the venerable inline toyota motor. I would wager that, if the 2jz supra had been introduced in 2003 with the exact same engine, tuners would have made rediculous power right out of the gate... The engine management and turbo technology is so much better now that 10 years ago that it would have been a no-brainer.
Anyway, Ill let you and fahque continue...sorry to bust in.
Im sending you a PM about this...lets see if we can get-up for friendly run sometime ourselves
i wanna see this race...
Sharif's car is sick. I was able to see how his car really works this past weekend. There is no doubt in my mind of how much power that car is making.
I can also say honestly that this appears to me to be one of the more reputable shops around. Sharif went out of his way to be the perfect host at his shop, not once, but twice. He even allowed us to tune on his own car, and learn how his dyno and his FCON work. Not many shops are willing to be as hospitable, and still be professional all the way through. I was very impressed with the shop in general, and for those of you that know me personally, you know how harshly I can behave towards shops that are below par.
Sharif, thanks again for above and beyond the call of duty.
nevermind......
The EMPIRE
Sure didOh, I was out and about I was chasing another Supra, but the guy wouldn't run me. And then we asked some guy in a EVO, he wanted to race then I said for money and he said no... I was out... ask hydroshutter, jtownaccord, and there were a few others. I didn't get any races that night... I tried to race a guy in a GT2 Porsche but for some reason he didn't want to play... I tried my hardest for at least 8 or 9 miles... I think I made the move too quick and scared him... I had the car sideways in both lanes @ 55-65mph
$50? C'mon that's not that much!
Money makes people do some really stupid things while racing. Safety first....no money. If you win, I will buy some Starbucks.
^
I'll race ya for a large smoothie from Smoothie King... =D
Hehe, nice to meet you that one night buddy... I'll stop by the shop sometime when I find some time. =D
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Sharif i still need to swing by the shop, i was psyched when i heard you guys were coming down to GA.. now that you're here im way too broke and occupied to deal with anything lol. i'll try to swing that way on monday, you gonna be there?
2 / 3 = 0.666
Yeah, I am here pretty much here all the time.
beleive me when i say.. i feel yaYeah, I am here pretty much here all the time.
2 / 3 = 0.666
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