hey man..i misunderstood. I thought you were one of those 'cool kids' who bashes hondas..all hondas because they you drive anything else. You know who im talkin about. Anyway, yes, i drive a shitty..in a racin sense..honda. It is quite reliable tho. And i completly get where you're commin from with most of the kids in civics think they are the shit. but again..as you said..there are a few nice hondas...i dont have one of them.