Thackers Story about the M3 on LS1tech

[slowhawk01]

I know that you know a shitload about ls1's so Im not going to begin to dispute ls1 specifics with you. But, just answer one question honestly here...
True or False: Some people (regardless of if its the "right" thing to do in your opnion) who are building motors for nitrous will build them to be lower compression than they would otherwise build a N/A motor, so that they can run more timing (making it run better normally) or require lower octane in their street car (whether or not you think its true.)

Yeah some people do crazy things but yes they do build them for lower compression. Different set ups thats what make people run diiferent

[LT1UltraZ]

I know that you know a shitload about ls1's so Im not going to begin to dispute ls1 specifics with you. But, just answer one question honestly here...
True or False: Some people (regardless of if its the "right" thing to do in your opnion) who are building motors for nitrous will build them to be lower compression than they would otherwise build a N/A motor, so that they can run more timing (making it run better normally) or require lower octane in their street car (whether or not you think its true.)

high compression motor with low timming will run better then a low compression motor with al lot timming.....i am sure you will dispute that too...

[lightspeed]

high compression motor with low timming will run better then a low compression motor with al lot timming.....i am sure you will dispute that too...

I think thats true in general. I generally dont dispute things I believe to be true.
Besides, I wasnt disputing anything, except the statement by thacker that his car is a "cam-only" car. Its really a fully-built motor with stock heads.
You also arent admitting the truth that some people do build nitrous street motors purposely with lower compression.

BTW, whats the compression ratio now on this "cam-only" SS, since you no so much about it?

[BUGMAN]

I don't think compression has a lot to do with it but more by choice unless it is gonna be strictly used for one purpose (NOS, Blower, Etc.). I have everything from 8:1 to 12:1 and the higher the compression the faster they seem to go. You just have to be careful on the timing issue or your day can be ruined in one pass.

I think the main issue is if your gonna use it as a daily driver because if you are then you won't care to ride around in a 16:1 car all day in traffic, etc...

Just my .02.

[distortion]

Wouldn't it be ideal for a pump gas class, where say someone wanted to spray a large shot.. and timing just wasn't doing the trick.. Going from 11:1 to 9:1 compression would allow you spray quite a bit more nitrous.. more power than the compression would provide. Now I may be wrong on this, this is just me reasoning it out. I did have a thread on it saved, but cannot find it from a few years ago.. but it has escaped me what all was included in the thread.. but it had some pretty good information in there from bret bauer and few other reputable builders in there.

Peace,
Josh

[WickedIXMR]

Dont discriminate the 19 year olds cuz im one of em

Yea i hate it when people discriminate against young people. Age doesnt mean shit. Also imho if someone is gonna race their car i think they should drive it cuz if you let someone else drive it cuz he drives it better is really pathetic.

[benwaballs]

Also imho if someone is gonna race their car i think they should drive it cuz if you let someone else drive it cuz he drives it better is really pathetic.

x10,000,000

the guys talking about no one knowing how to build a car to hook and this and that and calling ppl ricers but he can't even drive his own car! so SAD.

[lightspeed]

Wouldn't it be ideal for a pump gas class, where say someone wanted to spray a large shot.. and timing just wasn't doing the trick.. Going from 11:1 to 9:1 compression would allow you spray quite a bit more nitrous.. more power than the compression would provide. Now I may be wrong on this, this is just me reasoning it out. I did have a thread on it saved, but cannot find it from a few years ago.. but it has escaped me what all was included in the thread.. but it had some pretty good information in there from bret bauer and few other reputable builders in there.
Peace,
Josh

Josh, I agree with you, and Ive heard this from several people in the past. Depending on the intent, some people prefer to go with lower compression, with the intent of using more nitrous, which would more than make-up for the lower compression.
I guess its all how you set it up, or how you want to do it. It apparently works either way.
This was a silly tangent to go into anyway. I got jumped-on because I suggested that maybe he had a lower-compression motor for nitrous. Some people just like to harp on minutia and miss the overall point.