TO ME...not to other people...due to the fact that I am less experienced in my OWN cars...TO ME thats fast. I couldnt agree more that all of that is fast...but I personally dont think numbers mean anything unless u have a driver that can handle it and can make it count. I said 450-500 for me would be fast.. jsut because Im at 200whp. My car is slower than balls right now. All of those numbers are in the assumption that its actually making it to the pavement.