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05-18-2005, 04:31 PM
mogallo

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Originally Posted by Jason_STI

Oh my fault. Clark you dont remember me but, I met you at that import meet at the Varsity this month. I was with Mark. I can't wait to see your car with more power.

Hahahah MORE POWER??? As if 800whp ISNT enough!!!! Damn slow ass Supras......
05-18-2005, 04:32 PM
Tracer

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Originally Posted by mogallo

Hahahah MORE POWER??? As if 800whp ISNT enough!!!! Damn slow ass Supras......

That's what all the V8necks think
05-18-2005, 04:52 PM
mogallo

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Originally Posted by RUSH

Im sorry dude, but you just said everbody and there brother has a stupid fast one!! :lmfao: :lmfao: Yeah.... THere are a lot of them running around, infact I seen 5 supras this morning on the way to work, and no mustangs!

I have a couple friends right now with some beast(Cobras) they are both using the KB's, and one is pushing close to 600hp, which he is fixing to go with the twin turbo setup! The other is a 04 cobra that the motor was sent off, built and blue printed, and strickly runs c16 and pushing around 700-750hp! I like mustangs, and wouldnt mind building a bad one, but I wanted to build a supra instead!

Damn..... 700-750 on a TT Stang??? THATS IT???? ON RACE GAS???? Thats about what a Supra with a Large Turbo has on PUMP...... Tsk Tsk Tsk....
05-18-2005, 04:55 PM
Clark94T

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason_STI

Oh my fault. Clark you dont remember me but, I met you at that import meet at the Varsity this month. I was with Mark. I can't wait to see your car with more power.

Nice talking w/ ya. Speaking of mustangs and supra did you happen to see the turbo mustang @ the varsity? I spoke w/ Barry the owner for a little bit. That mustang was badass.
05-18-2005, 04:56 PM
Tracer

Yeah I saw the Mustang but I heard he only runs low 10's.....but I don't know if that's true or not. So if anyone knows let me know...thanks
05-18-2005, 04:57 PM
mogallo

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Originally Posted by Clark94T

Nice talking w/ ya. Speaking of mustangs and supra did you happen to see the turbo mustang @ the varsity? I spoke w/ Barry the owner for a little bit. That mustang was badass.

HELL YA IT WAS BADASS!!!!! I love the sleeper effect.... :D
05-18-2005, 04:58 PM
RUSH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clark94T

Nice talking w/ ya. Speaking of mustangs and supra did you happen to see the turbo mustang @ the varsity? I spoke w/ Barry the owner for a little bit. That mustang was badass.

Thats the one Im suppose to race, lets just say its a single digit 1/4 ;)

Mogallo..... Its not a TT mustang, its supercharged!
05-18-2005, 05:00 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by Jason_STI

Yeah I saw the Mustang but I heard he only runs low 10's.....but I don't know if that's true or not. So if anyone knows let me know...thanks

Why don't you race him and find out. And you must think low 10s is slow huh.."only runs low 10s"
05-18-2005, 05:00 PM
Tracer

You took it the wrong way Windsor
05-18-2005, 05:01 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by Clark94T

Nice talking w/ ya. Speaking of mustangs and supra did you happen to see the turbo mustang @ the varsity? I spoke w/ Barry the owner for a little bit. That mustang was badass.

Do you go to the varsity meets a lot? I've been to like 2-3 this year so far. I'm going to try to make in my turbo mustang for the next one in June. I think Barry will be there as well in his since he lives in midtown near Ga tech. I'd like to check out that supra in person.
05-18-2005, 05:04 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by mogallo

Damn..... 700-750 on a TT Stang??? THATS IT???? ON RACE GAS???? Thats about what a Supra with a Large Turbo has on PUMP...... Tsk Tsk Tsk....

A twin turbo o3 cobra should have no trouble making 1000+ hp man with the right turbos. A whippled cobra will be limited due to the inherent inefficiency of the twin screw superchargers.

Oh and whos supra makes 750 rwhp on pump gas assuming you are talking about 93 octane? I sure would like to see that.
05-18-2005, 05:14 PM
mogallo

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Originally Posted by WINDSOR

A twin turbo o3 cobra should have no trouble making 1000+ hp man with the right turbos. A whippled cobra will be limited due to the inherent inefficiency of the twin screw superchargers.

Oh and whos supra makes 750 rwhp on pump gas assuming you are talking about 93 octane? I sure would like to see that.

Okay, that number was just off the top of my head, the actual number is closer to 700whp.... T88H on 22psi PUMP gas.... the actual dyno was 698whp on Pump and 900 something on Racegas.... pretty close to 1000. there are a lot of T88 Supras out there..... and there are a lot of different turbos bigger than a T88.

Yes, 93 octane.

Thanks for the correction Windsor!!!
05-18-2005, 05:16 PM
mogallo

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Originally Posted by RUSH

Thats the one Im suppose to race, lets just say its a single digit 1/4 ;)

Mogallo..... Its not a TT mustang, its supercharged!

Mogallo <------- Cant Read :D

Rush, you are planning to run single digit times at the track as well or what???
05-18-2005, 05:19 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by mogallo

Okay, that number was just off the top of my head, the actual number is closer to 700whp.... T88H on 22psi PUMP gas.... the actual dyno was 698whp on Pump and 900 something on Racegas.... pretty close to 1000. there are a lot of T88 Supras out there..... and there are a lot of different turbos bigger than a T88.

Yes, 93 octane.

Thanks for the correction Windsor!!!

I'd like to see what the powerband looks like with a T88 on a 3.0L? Is that small frame real 88mm turbo like a PT88 or a Greddy T88 which is like a 70mm or 72mm wheel?
05-18-2005, 05:29 PM
Tracer

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Originally Posted by WINDSOR

I'd like to see what the powerband looks like with a T88 on a 3.0L? Is that small frame real 88mm turbo like a PT88 or a Greddy T88 which is like a 70mm or 72mm wheel?

Hey did anyone sign up for Windsor's class on turbo's? I sure didn't. LOL
05-18-2005, 05:37 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by Jason_STI

Hey did anyone sign up for Windsor's class on turbo's? I sure didn't. LOL

maybe you should. You have something of value to be added?
05-18-2005, 05:38 PM
mogallo

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Originally Posted by WINDSOR

I'd like to see what the powerband looks like with a T88 on a 3.0L? Is that small frame real 88mm turbo like a PT88 or a Greddy T88 which is like a 70mm or 72mm wheel?

Greddy T88H Turbo
05-18-2005, 05:42 PM
mogallo

One dyno graph i looked at with a T88 appears to spool at 4300rpm..... at 5200rpm he is pushing 600whp and by 5500 he is pushing 700whp....

I'm willing to bet this is a pretty lethal combination with an 8500 or so redline.... but you would have to slightly mod the internals of the 2j to do that...
05-18-2005, 05:42 PM
Tracer

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Originally Posted by WINDSOR

maybe you should. You have something of value to be added?

Nah. I get all my teaching from a guy that I respect real well. He doesn't treat people like crap.
05-18-2005, 05:46 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by Jason_STI

Nah. I get all my teaching from a guy that I respect real well. He doesn't treat people like crap.

cool. give him a cookie next time you see him.
05-18-2005, 05:52 PM
Tracer

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Originally Posted by WINDSOR

cool. give him a cookie next time you see him.

I just don't understand why you have to be so cocky? This thread was started for fun...and then you come in hear and treat people crap. Like you run the show or something.
05-18-2005, 05:56 PM
mogallo

Why are you even comparing the two??? Windsor and Mr. X??? They arent even in the same league man..... Nobody in GA even comapres to dude you are talkin about Jason..... Windsor, cut out the jealous remarks plz....
05-18-2005, 06:09 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by Jason_STI

I just don't understand why you have to be so cocky? This thread was started for fun...and then you come in hear and treat people crap. Like you run the show or something.

Don't take it too seriously...Its just the internet. I know who you are talking about and i'm sure he knows his stuff.
05-18-2005, 06:12 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by mogallo

Why are you even comparing the two??? Windsor and Mr. X??? They arent even in the same league man..... Nobody in GA even comapres to dude you are talkin about Jason..... Windsor, cut out the jealous remarks plz....

Jealous? Hardly. I'll be back on later...have to go teach turbo class now.
05-18-2005, 06:24 PM
mogallo

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Originally Posted by WINDSOR

Jealous? Hardly. I'll be back on later...have to go teach turbo class now.

:D If that is how you plan on funding your TT setup.... i would suggest a 2nd and 3rd job..... a 4th wouldnt hurt either.....
05-18-2005, 06:27 PM
Tracy

Jason,

Windsor is just like that. Don't take him to seriously. He makes me mad sometimes, too. Then I just give him the smack down and tell him to be quiet! :D

JK, Windsor:). I'll sit here and calmly wait for your retort.
05-18-2005, 07:25 PM
Tracer

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Originally Posted by tracy

Jason,

Windsor is just like that. Don't take him to seriously. He makes me mad sometimes, too. Then I just give him the smack down and tell him to be quiet! :D

JK, Windsor:). I'll sit here and calmly wait for your retort.

I know...I'm just sick and tired of all these IA people that think they know everything about cars and turbos. Just because their in a car club doesn't make them GOD.
05-18-2005, 08:26 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by Jason_STI

I know...I'm just sick and tired of all these IA people that think they know everything about cars and turbos. Just because their in a car club doesn't make them GOD.

LOL,i'm not in any car club. I know a good bit about cars and turbos but never say i know it all. I'm no kid...i'm 30 years old and graduated from college. You don't really know me so you can't really judge what i know and what i don't know. Lets just keep it at that.
05-18-2005, 08:29 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by mogallo

:D If that is how you plan on funding your TT setup.... i would suggest a 2nd and 3rd job..... a 4th wouldnt hurt either.....

I don't have a TT setup. I have a single turbo setup with a T-76 and its already done and on the car. I just have some minor details to finish and it will be ready to bust some supra ass. :D
05-18-2005, 08:33 PM
Big Rick

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Originally Posted by WINDSOR

I don't have a TT setup. I have a single turbo setup with a T-76 and its already done and on the car. I just have some minor details to finish and it will be ready to bust some supra ass. :D

doesn't matter, at the end of the day its still a stang :D

j/k bro
05-18-2005, 09:41 PM
mogallo

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Originally Posted by WINDSOR

I don't have a TT setup. I have a single turbo setup with a T-76 and its already done and on the car. I just have some minor details to finish and it will be ready to bust some supra ass. :D

What do you consider "minor details" ??? A MOTOR??? TRANSMISSION???? Or the little plastic piece that goes over your mirror??

Just give me a shout anytime you want to "bust some supra ass".... im kinda into that kinky spanking shit man...... :wink: :wink:
05-18-2005, 10:05 PM
yudalicious

reading this thread just reinforces my disdain for one thing: all these high school import fan boys who think any Supra is the end all sports car... those who actually know what they're talking about, thank you. (not putting down supras, for they are good cars)
05-18-2005, 10:39 PM
Dragonfly5338

Hi Clark! :)
05-18-2005, 10:41 PM
Negrodamus

Get a 1994 RX-7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
05-19-2005, 01:14 AM
RUSH

Quote:

Originally Posted by mogallo

Mogallo <------- Cant Read :D

Rush, you are planning to run single digit times at the track as well or what???

Ummm, No coment! :D
05-20-2005, 10:05 AM
simplyblurredmrT

[QUOTE=WINDSOR]It does mean shit. If you turbo a bigger displacement engine it will always make more power then a smaller one. [QUOTE]

I'm going cliche here but "bigger is not always better". Top Secret has a top speed Supra, that is not JZ powered but SW powered...yeah it has MR2 turbo motor in it. It prolly has a shitty 1/4 mile time but that little four banger is toping out at about 200+ mph. To say that is impressive is an understatment.

This thread seems more a domestic vs import to me but I'll give my opinion.........If I want a challange Supra.....If I want a Easy speed/power Mustang. As for the domestic VS imports it's been done plenty (Detroit vs The Imports) They held it several years and it's on dvd I do belive. The races they hold have surprizing outcomes.
05-20-2005, 10:12 AM
RUSH

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=282973

Imports win a 10.5 class, but I thought supras suck in the 1/4!
05-20-2005, 01:10 PM
topsecret2JZ

Get a mustang if you would like good quarter mile time for cheap, Supra if you want to kill on the highway
05-20-2005, 02:12 PM
Torque

This thread is pretty ridiculous.

I'm a fan of the V-8. I love big horse power supras too.

There's really no question about "ease of modification" both financially as well as technology availability and room and common research ,etc.

The 'stangs have it all over the supras in pretty much every department. Period. Sure some supras are faster than most 'stangs. But most stangs are faster than most supra's.

I love underdogs, that's why I'm a ford fan in most racing, and that's also why I love 4 cylinder beasts.

There's no denying that you can go much faster for MUCH less and for much less trouble where mustangs are concerned --straight line, highway, road course.

Supra vs. Stang is a good fight. Period

any more discussion is -> :jerkit:
05-20-2005, 03:35 PM
WINDSOR

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Originally Posted by RUSH

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=282973

Imports win a 10.5 class, but I thought supras suck in the 1/4!

no offense but that 10.5 class does not even compare to the orlando world street nationals. The 10.5 tire cars in that class run high 6s at over 200 mph with just one power adder. A supra could never compete unless they changed the rules to allow 2 power adders.

How come we don't see any supras running the outlaw 10.5 circuit? These are huge money races with 20,000 payouts going to the winners. Its basically anything goes on a 10.5W tire...with a few limits on weights of cars depending on the power adder.

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