liek i said guys we can go all day about this discussion. There are 1 million civics in this area. Yea maybee it has a type R motor in it? maybee only just a b18b? regardless im just saying a stock bolted civic with the factory motor has nothing. I honestly would never drive a civic. I would take a 240 over one any day, but I did not make this thread to thrash cars though. I made it to see who this guy was to see what he has on his car. So like i said just stop talkin about me and talk about this is300 or just stay off of here.