ok i guess i wasn't the only one thinkin he was bullshittin when he i read it the first time...srt 4 and turbo si ( which someone replied to already) are a high possiblity....but a g35 and vette, shit they could have a learners permit but as long as they know to put the petal to the floor and keep going straight.....even with bad shifting....they wouldn't lose that bad ( as you say)...