Okay. Does anyone possibly believe that as long as manufacturers are competitive, and aftermarket companies keep doing their jobs, vehicles in general will all be competitive in their rights? I honestly don't know. I just believe that where there is a will (forgive the cliche) there is a way. Every manufacturer being domestic, import, fourbanger, sixslanger, eightbeater, or whatever you want to call them are all going to find ways to exploit their respective advantages to "outdo" the next em-effer that comes along. I am totally not 100 percent educated on these subjects, but it almost seems like the natural order of things to me. Okay come bash me, Im ready. Or possibly move the thread, because I just realized we are in the KILLS FORUM. I would bet my left teste this would a repost on the site.