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    Yea I agree 4.56 will never see this car...

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    Oh no a v8.... Tell that to the stage 3 sc 427 roush I put to shame.
    I just came in here to laugh my fucking ass off at this. A stage 3 427 Roush... LOLOL watch out we got a bad ass over here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thundercatz1 View Post
    Yea I agree 4.56 will never see this car...
    Then it's not 1/8 mile car.. Only hurting your times!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    I just came in here to laugh my fucking ass off at this. A stage 3 427 Roush... LOLOL watch out we got a bad ass over here.
    No one said I was a bad ass, but he got beat by a 4cyl that wasn't even tuned. He spent at least 40k on that car I spent 6k...........so sad


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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    He spent at least 40k on that car I spent 6k...........so sad
    What's your point? You can dump 10 grand into a $2,000 dollar shit bucket and youre stuck with a $2,000 fast shit bucket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    What's your point? You can dump 10 grand into a $2,000 dollar shit bucket and youre stuck with a $2,000 fast shit bucket.
    I was still expecting more from such a "beast"

    2 liter on 19psi vs a supposed monster of a mustang. Not only was the car like 30+k he had a good bit of money in it. I would be different if I did have 10k in my car but I don't. I could buy two used evos for what he payed and still beat that over priced pos.


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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    I was still expecting more from such a "beast"

    2 liter on 19psi vs a supposed monster of a mustang. Not only was the car like 30+k he had a good bit of money in it. I would be different if I did have 10k in my car but I don't. I could buy two used evos for what he payed and still beat that over priced pos.


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    Who considers a Stage 3 Roush a monster? Usually idiots that don't know any better, or wife beater wearing high school kids touting snapbacks actually think Stage 3 actually means something. Considering the first couple "stages" for Roush anything are simply cosmetic mods or minor bolt ons, it doesnt mean shit.

    Also, nobody gives a shit what you consider "overpriced". It's more of a collector vehicle than a base platform for someone to "build" a fast Mustang out of. Nobody gives a damn what you would do with $30k+ either , it's not your money. I've seen plenty of people spend a shit load of money on cars that barely put out any power, doesn't mean they're fucking retards, it's just what they wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    Who considers a Stage 3 Roush a monster? Usually idiots that don't know any better, or wife beater wearing high school kids touting snapbacks actually think Stage 3 actually means something. Considering the first couple "stages" for Roush anything are simply cosmetic mods or minor bolt ons, it doesnt mean shit.

    Also, nobody gives a shit what you consider "overpriced". It's more of a collector vehicle than a base platform for someone to "build" a fast Mustang out of. Nobody gives a damn what you would do with $30k+ either , it's not your money. I've seen plenty of people spend a shit load of money on cars that barely put out any power, doesn't mean they're fucking retards, it's just what they wanted.
    Look dude why are you even trying to argue with me I don't give a fuck. It's still a over priced pos snap backs or not if you go spend 40k on this piece of shit then your a fucking moron. People but mustang because of a name... For 40k this car should be fucking me all up. It wasn't just a sage three it had full bolt ons and a bunch of other shit.

    Again your opinion isn't needed the discussion about how mustangs are the best car In the world is now over. Maybe you should have logged in earlier if you wanted your opinion to be known.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    your a fucking moron
    Oh, the irony.

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    For 40k this car should be fucking me all up.
    There are a lot of luxury performance vehicles that don't have a great cost/performance ratio, your argument is a weak one.

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    It wasn't just a sage three it had full bolt ons and a bunch of other shit.
    Now it sounds like you're making shit up, kid.

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    Again your opinion isn't needed the discussion about how mustangs are the best car In the world is now over.
    I never said Mustangs were the best car in the world.

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    Maybe you should have logged in earlier if you wanted your opinion to be known.
    Im always logged in. What's your point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    Oh, the irony.



    There are a lot of luxury performance vehicles that don't have a great cost/performance ratio, your argument is a weak one.



    Now it sounds like you're making shit up, kid.



    I never said Mustangs were the best car in the world.



    Im always logged in. What's your point?
    Sorry grammar police "you're" I forgot I was talking to someone of importance.

    You just helped my argument.. Ford went away from just performance and added their idea of luxury (which isn't all that nice unless a cramped interior was what they were going for) which caused them to loose more on the performance side. When I hear "mustang" I hear the best performance car you can buy for the money. Obviously it isn't. Never said you "said" they were the best, but these guys surely made it out to be the best production performance car out there for under 40k. I never made anything up I just don't remember what all he said before we ran nor do I care. Again in sticking with my statement. "it's a over priced pos"

    If you think you're going to just run all over me in a argument then at least bring up something worth arguing about. I wast show casing my kill to say "I beat the fastest mustang ever" I was showing that my poorly built car (previous owners work) beat a highly rated mustang with modifications and it didn't take much for my car to be able to do so.

    Going off my previous argument.. A evo with my setup would be a lot faster then my car. Again you could put 5k into this stage 3 roush and it would still get its ass handed to it. There are plenty of cars out there that out perform the mustang at a lower cost.


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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    .....There are plenty of cars out there that out perform the mustang at a lower cost.
    Compared to a 2013 Mustang GT?.....not really. 12 sec 1/4 mile. 110mph+ traps.
    With any color you want for around high 20's to low 30's on autotrader right now. Not too many cars can claim anything close to that for under 30K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post

    You just helped my argument.. Ford went away from just performance and added their idea of luxury (which isn't all that nice unless a cramped interior was what they were going for) which caused them to loose more on the performance side.
    No, Ford went away with the idea of "if you buy a Mustang you're going to get a shitty interior". Starting in 2010s and up the quality and materials used in the production of their models even down to the V6 have vast improvements over it's past year models. Im 6'1 and I hardly think an S197 interior is cramped, so not sure what you're talking about. Caused them to lose more on the performance side? Where the hell do you pull this shit out of?

    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    When I hear "mustang" I hear the best performance car you can buy for the money. Obviously it isn't. Never said you "said" they were the best, but these guys surely made it out to be the best production performance car out there for under 40k. I never made anything up I just don't remember what all he said before we ran nor do I care. Again in sticking with my statement. "it's a over priced pos"
    Roush and Saleen models never were about huge performance for the money. A 2013 GT500 / 2013 GT500 Super Snake does have the most power per dollar for the money. Many top automotive reviewers have also claimed this. So this Roush doesnt have 600HP for 40k, you're an idiot for covering an entire platform based on some Roush Stage (X).

    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post

    I wast show casing my kill to say "I beat the fastest mustang ever" I was showing that my poorly built car (previous owners work) beat a highly rated mustang with modifications and it didn't take much for my car to be able to do so
    Highly rated? By whom? You? The entire Mustang enthusiast base? You really have no idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHHHH View Post
    Compared to a 2013 Mustang GT?.....not really. 12 sec 1/4 mile. 110mph+ traps.
    With any color you want for around high 20's to low 30's on autotrader right now. Not too many cars can claim anything close to that for under 30K.
    It took them until 2012 to produce a car worth buying... Nissan and others have been doing that and they didn't need a v8.


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    What Nissan offers the same bang for the buck at the same cost of a new Mustang. Zero.


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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    It took them until 2012 to produce a car worth buying... Nissan and others have been doing that and they didn't need a v8.

    Nissan and others have been pumping out what car that is worth buying for under $30,000???



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    What Nissan offers the same bang for the buck at the same cost of a new Mustang. Zero.

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    Did I say just Nissan or did I say "ect"

    Evo,sti,350z,370z,supra ect are cars that were created with performance in mind and also have a good balance of power to weight unlike the mustang gt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post

    Evo,sti,350z,370z,supra ect are cars
    Yes, tell me how cheap those were brand new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    Did I say just Nissan or did I say "ect"

    Evo,sti,350z,370z,supra ect are cars that were created with performance in mind and also have a good balance of power to weight unlike the mustang gt.


    ......you do know the Mustang GT has a better power to weight ratio then any of those cars you just named off right?
    For cheaper none the less

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    Yes, tell me how cheap those were brand new.
    I'm too busy at work but I'm sure you have an idea. There in the same ball. Park as a mustang.

    I think what really given mustangs a bad name is the gt. people in Hondas have been beating gts since the early 90's it's sad they took so long to give the car actual balls.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SHHHH View Post
    ......you do know the Mustang GT has a better power to weight ratio then any of those cars you just named off right?
    For cheaper none the less
    That's funny the evo had a better power to weight then the cobra.

    If your talking about the new gt maybe as I don't know anything about it not do I.


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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    That's funny the evo had a better power to weight then the cobra.

    If your talking about the new gt maybe as I don't know anything about it not do I.
    Yes we're talking about the 2013 Mustang GT still. Unless you have a time machine, then only talking about decade old cars would make sense.

    Edit: Just out of curiosity I checked a 2003 Evo vs a 2003 Ford SVT Mustang Cobra. The Cobra has a better power to weight ratio still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHHHH View Post
    Yes we're talking about the 2013 Mustang GT still. Unless you have a time machine, then only talking about decade old cars would make sense.
    Well one good year verse a decade of Shitty gts doesn't make up for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SHHHH View Post
    Yes we're talking about the 2013 Mustang GT still. Unless you have a time machine, then only talking about decade old cars would make sense.

    Edit: Just out of curiosity I checked a 2003 Evo vs a 2003 Ford SVT Mustang Cobra. The Cobra has a better power to weight ratio still.
    By like a 1whp lol I already posted both power to weights in here.

    29k vs 34-36k


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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    Well one good year verse a decade of Shitty gts doesn't make up for it.
    So when are these other brands going to ever come out with a car thats worth a shit? Or are they still in their "decade of shitty" cars phase?

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    I don't know anything about it

    First thing you've said that makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHHHH View Post
    So when are these other brands going to ever come out with a car thats worth a shit? Or are they still in their "decade of shitty" cars phase?
    Ill discuss this more tonight when I'm on a computer and not my phone at work.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    First thing you've said that makes sense.
    Whatever you say troll.


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    All I know is that my mustang gt is the best overall performance vehicle I have I paid 20k for my 05 GT slapped Bolton ons and 125 shot of nitrous and making 450rwhp is good enough for me . I stand by my car no need for me to get a new 5.0 or boss 302

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    Quote Originally Posted by E36slide View Post
    Whatever you say troll.

    Are you mod bashing

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    I went and pulled actual numbers from those that posted their dyno charts.

    Evo 8 weight was 3262. Evo 8 avg hp was 230 at the tires. Some were as low as 190 and as high as 240.

    03 Cobra weighes 3665. Avg rwhp was 370. Some as low as 360 and as high as 390.

    Evo 8 - 230/3262=0.07
    Cobra - 3665/370=0.10

    Even if we bump up the hp to the highest on the Evo and cut its weight to 3000 lbs, and take an extra 10 hp off the lowest hp on the Cobra - the Cobra has better power to weight.
    Evo 8 - 240/3000=0.08
    Cobra - 350/3665=0.095

    Its not even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thundercatz1 View Post
    All I know is that my mustang gt is the best overall performance vehicle I have I paid 20k for my 05 GT slapped Bolton ons and 125 shot of nitrous and making 450rwhp is good enough for me . I stand by my car no need for me to get a new 5.0 or boss 302
    And you still run 14s.....

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    I like my 2,000 shit box... Just sayin! :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post

    Evo 8 - 230/3262=0.07
    Cobra - 3665/370=0.10

    Evo 8 - 240/3000=0.08
    Cobra - 350/3665=0.095
    I don't see my civic in there, and they have power adders..

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    And you still run 14s.....

    I ran a 16 at commerce leadfootmf even caught that on video somewhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    I ran a 16 at commerce leadfootmf even caught that on video somewhere
    But you like said car of "your" choice, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thundercatz1 View Post
    All I know is that my mustang gt is the best overall performance vehicle I have I paid 20k for my 05 GT slapped Bolton ons and 125 shot of nitrous and making 450rwhp is good enough for me . I stand by my car no need for me to get a new 5.0 or boss 302
    No, you sir should've waited for the 5.0 4v... LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by David88vert View Post
    I went and pulled actual numbers from those that posted their dyno charts.

    Evo 8 weight was 3262. Evo 8 avg hp was 230 at the tires. Some were as low as 190 and as high as 240.

    03 Cobra weighes 3665. Avg rwhp was 370. Some as low as 360 and as high as 390.

    Evo 8 - 230/3262=0.07
    Cobra - 3665/370=0.10

    Even if we bump up the hp to the highest on the Evo and cut its weight to 3000 lbs, and take an extra 10 hp off the lowest hp on the Cobra - the Cobra has better power to weight.
    Evo 8 - 240/3000=0.08
    Cobra - 350/3665=0.095

    Its not even close.
    I'm going off wiki not what ppl think they made. Not every consumer will be as car educated as everyone is on this forum.

    The evo ran a 12.1 stock and the cobra was at 11.9 so that would be a drivers race.

    Stated on wiki there were evos in 2003 that made 316hp and your saying 240.i highly doubt 240 was there actual number they put down because that's hardly a performance machine hell some of the new v6 accords almost make that.

    If what you say is correct..

    A 240whp car ran a 12.1 and a 350whp car ran a 11.9

    So a 4cyl sedan almost ran the same track time as a 03 cobra v8 power house. Again this shows off mustangs poor performance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nemesis View Post
    Are you mod bashing
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1civic View Post
    No, you sir should've waited for the 5.0 4v... LOL
    Why should he have waited ? It's a mustang...it's the best performance car for your money right...said no one ever. Lolol


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1civic View Post
    I don't see my civic in there, and they have power adders..
    If we started to put Hondas into the mix these mustang guys feelings would get hurt. Lol

    It takes skill to make a 4cyl run 8's it takes no skill to make a v8 run those times.


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