Why did you get that 240 then?Originally Posted by E36slide
Seems like you have a thread where you show how you work on it everyday.
Why did you get that 240 then?
Seems like you have a thread where you show how you work on it everyday.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Haven't came second to any mustang yet in any of my shitty cheap cars. Lol
I beat a camed 98 4.6 mustang from a dig in my 1993 sentra ser with bolt ons. I beat him so bad....190whp vs 280+whp.
Rb25 I beat a roush and a ss Camaro with only 12 pounds on a s2 turbo with rebuilt internals...
Sr beat a stage 3 427 by 3-4 cars...
So yeah I'm good with my 3k cars.
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That's because you were too afraid to line up with me. You refused online and in person.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
It's all fun and games till a foxbody shows up.
I believe I called your bitch ass out in the cobra!!! Where you at?? Heh, you ignored me. Just thought you were a punk bitch. I'm ready when you are.
I am by no means insecure about anything about my car. I built my car to be this fast. It takes only putting my kit back on to take your camaro. And believe that. So where is that cobra at? Lets get it!
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Sounds like to me their are a bunch of pussies on here who don't like to race. All talk!!! Just want to talk shit and run off a new member. It's all good though. Typical ricer bullshit from young punks
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I simply don't like mustangs period. Know I don't think 4cyl can out run them $ for $ but I do belie there are a few civic hatches that would give fox body's a run for their money on the strip. I've grew up around v8's my whole life. I've owned a as Camaro and a z28 Camaro and hated both of them because they broke down more then they ran. Then I got a Honda then a BMW and realized why drive something fast if its going to break more then it performs. So I started messing with reliable motors instead. Will I ever break a world record in my sr no but can I keep up with those 60k mustangs on the high way, absolutely. It's not that I want to win; it's I want to show the mustangbro that a lil 4cyl can sniff his ass with half the money.Stock vs stock matters when comparing racing prowess. /sarcasm.
This "work on my car everyday" is the opinion of the inexperienced. Once a SBF is gasketed correctly it's virtually maintenance free. The only annoyance ive ever had with SBFs is oil leaks and AOD transmissions. I've had a few s13s and ive had about 50 foxbody mustangs. If you think a s13 out runs a foxbody $ vs $ then you dont have a fucking clue what you're talking about. The problem with you import kiddiots is that you live inside your own little fantasy worlds and never actually seek the truth. Psychologically, your brain is more susceptible to picking up information that supports your belief. A stock foxbody has about 200 hp. A GT with an automatic probably runs a 16 in the 1/4 stock. Once upon a time some kid in a sports compact outran a mustang from redlight to redlight in a car that was 10-15 years newer and more technologically advanced than said mustang. That story spread like wildfire. The uninformed, like yourself... adopted this mindset and latched on to it since it supports what you want to believe. So then you went on your merry way and started drifting imports with mustache duct tape and green wheels while never giving mustangs a 2nd thought....
Meanwhile, in a place known as reality.... located far far away from the fantasy land you live in.... this was taking place.
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but it cant........
if you gave us both $10,000 to build a race car.....
you pick an s13... i pick a foxbody......
it's gonna look like one of those episodes of pinks with you standing there crying... "i need 15 lengths and you to take the bottle out.... "
That's because I'm fixing issues caused by previous owner. Once everything is replaced I shouldn't have to work on it unless I break something (suspension) at the track.
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I'm just not that big on money street racing. Everyone lies about what they have. If we were driving down 85 and you pulled up to me and gave me a look I would oblige and give you a good pull but I find it stupid to run someone especially when I could lose my licensee. All I need is one ticket an mine are gone for awhile. I would say go to commerce but I hate the idea of dragging. The shit got so boring when I owned my dsm. Plus, commerce sucks ass.
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Maybe you should post a video of you beating something with the same power and not some dude half ass getting on it.
This one time I posted a video of me killing a geo metro from a dig. He gave up after first gear....
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you drive a 1992 240sx..... you're comparing $v$ with a new vehicle..... that's a pointless argument...
A new mustang costs $40k... with $40 i could build a pinto that would destroy it... does that mean pinto>mustang?
Mustang > 240 $v$...
Compare your 92 240 to a 92 mustang....
that or compare what a silvia costed new in 1992 then factor in inflation and compare that to a new mustang....
however you add this up. Mustang > 240
Depends on what motor is already In the car... 10k into a ls3 vs 10k into a 5.0 fox body.... 240 would do more then hang. I mean my moms bf has a ls1 I can get just have to find a transmission. So again 10k vs 10k you wouldn't be doing anything but seeing tail lights.
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delusional and stretching. although putting an ls3 into a 240 proves very little towards a nissan vs ford debate..... id still allow it. Adding the market value of an ls3 to your budget would cripple your build cost and make you lose just as bad as you would before. There's a reason when you go to the strip it's overloaded with foxbodies.... foxbody is the kingpin of weekend warriors.
No homie I was comparing other cars sti,Eco ect new for new money for money. Your trying to say I was trying to compare my old 240 and I wasn't. A new m3 vs new cobra.....m3 is victorious.... Get what I'm saying. There are other foreign built cars for the same price that will out preform a mustang any day of the week stock for stock money for money.
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Ok....
Here's my example.
2003 Cobra, sticker price $34,750 add to this equation $5000 cash back to modify.
Tell me another car that will out perform it..... using the same format. Original sticker + mod money = <$40,000
[QUOTE=Sinfix_15;39484191]Ok....
Here's my example.
2003 Cobra, sticker price $34,750 add to this equation $5000 cash back to modify.
Tell me another car that will out perform it..... using the same format. Original sticker + mod money =
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There the king because there light as fuck....something Americans decided they would have no part in. Instead they build huge motors for huge cars and expect it to preform. Take the 2013 Saleen or tosh and drop 400-500 pounds that arnt needed and it actually be able to compete with out heavily modding the motor like most do.
Also I have a ls1 with a ls3 cam ported light build at my disposal if I wanted to swap it into my 240 but I hate American made cars and the trans is like 2k+
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I was a fool for thinking (even for a moment) that you could be taken seriously.
I defined clear perimeters for you to prove your accusation of $v$..... I'm assuming upon looking at my example you googled 2003 cobra vs m3 stock, looked at the road tests motortrend did... then noticed that the M3 was already more expensive and realized that you cant produce an example outside of your theories of swapping X engine into a 240 as if the 240 is some great platform for engines to be in. I obviously have love for the s13 chassis..... but lets not pretend that it's setting the bar.
Perfect example. Evo 8 with not even 5k maybe 3k vs a 04 cobra with at least 5k getting drugged...I spy a gto getting drugged too lol
http://youtu.be/_Irgp-r3XTw
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where do you buy the xray goggles that prices cars on youtube for you??? i want a set....
with that said, EVO is a better choice than i would have expected from you. $29k MSRP..... it would be a formidable challenger to the 03 cobra $vs$<40k..... maybe the best example that could possibly be produced from the import world... but def not a clear victor.....
And also.... the EVO costs what it costs because it adapted a lot of the "americanized" ways of the mustang. Lot of people complain about the "cheapness" of an evo for what it is.
Dont have time to continue atm, gotta get back to work. to be continued.....
Atleast 5K???
My buddies old Cobra:
501rwhp 528ftlbs
Custom Home Ported Eaton
Custom Ported & Polished TB and Plenum
Custom 2lb Lower w/ Stock Cage
2.8" Pulley
Stock motor/Stock Fuel Pumps/Stock Injectors
So like a $100 pulley and a tune hahaha.
Edit: He had Mac Catback Exhaust as well. So add on $1000 just for the sake of being on the high side(Pretty sure its like 1/2 of that retail but I dont feel like checking haha).
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Nah I new the m3 was over priced due to the luxury/performance the car posses. I choose the evo 8 with is a turbo charged platform and with 5k your talking about a 500-600whp monster.
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It said the power and mods In the description. Un like the mustang all the evo had to do was add a gt35 and turn the boost up, throw in a Managment system, injectors and a tune.
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and it'll be slower than a dsm with 10k in it.
9.28 on a stock bottom end, and it lasted until the last run of the season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inHD2ND32gg
That's the precise reason I went with a dsm. almost too easy to make power.
BTW stock evo ecu has handled 1000hp, no need to waste money on a standalone
Wow, your 9 sec DSM will beat an 8 sec 98 Cobra (not even a Terminator)? This is an 8 sec budget build.
JIMS SVT 98 Cobra 8 second street car - YouTube
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
mustang has forged internals which cost $$$. That dsm has a bone stock bottom end AKA $100 at the junkyard
Do you realize that forged internal kits for Mustangs are cheap? I sold a new complete Probe forged internal kit for $500 a while back. There is always someone selling Mustang parts cheap.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Kurgan sold a couple of 03 Cobras making over 600 rwhp for under $30k last year. One was 26k if I remember correctly. With $14k more, I could get over 900 rwhp. You think that a 430 rwhp S13 LS1 could hang with that?
Mustangs are pretty much the cheapest platform that you can get to go fast. That's why they are popular.
Take a 92 S13 and spend 10k on it. You will always be slower than a 92 Mustang with 10k dropped in it.
Sold my '03 Cobra pushing 656rwhp for just under $20,000 about a year ago.
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And with another 20K I wonder how fast it could go?....
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
We're talking about buying a car new in 2003 then spending only 5k. The evo 8 would beat any 03 cobra with 5k dropped into it if your dropping the same amount junto the evo plus I'd have 11k or so to spare. That's our debate.
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Ok, let's be realistic about it then. In 2003, the Evo cost $30K, and there weren't many shops in GA that knew how to mod it. Additionally, they all charged an arm and a leg then on them. Basically, your $5K wouldn't get you what it will now.
If you want to play the game of getting a 2003 now, and then dumping in $5K, you can go a lot faster now.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
Evo 8 with basic mods runs around 11.6 at 117mph, and the mods run about $2500.
Stage 1: $1419
BR EVOLUTION AIR FILTER KIT
BR EVOLUTION 3" STAINLESS STEEL DOWNPIPE
3" HIGHFLOW CATALYTIC CONVERTER- I used test pipe
BR EVOLUTION 3" STAINLESS STEEL CATBACK W/ MAGNAFLOW MUFFLER
BR MANUAL BOOST CONTROLLER
BUSCHUR FLASH-I used Dynoflash
AUTOMETER 30-0-30 BOOST GAUGE
COLUMN MOUNT GAUGE POD
Stage 2: $979
BR EVOLUTION MAF PIPE KIT
EVOLUTION ODYSSEY MINI BATTERY KIT
BR EVOLUTION UPPER I/C PIPE KIT w/ TiAL BOV-I used 1G and Forge RS
Tein S tech springs $208
Exedy Twin HD clutch $1500
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03-04 Cobra Terminators run 11.90 with only rear Draglights w/ 26-10.5 ET Streets. Most guys spent less than $1500 to make 450+hp and 450+tq - back in 2003-2005. You couldn't do that back then with the Evo 8. I know - I wanted one then (and still would like to have one now).
Yes, I like the Evo, and wouldn't mind having one, but to be honest, you can just make a lot more power for a lot less money with a Mustang.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
last I checked an 03 evo had the 4g63 motor. I'm on your side
Again.... All it would take is a gt35 and a rom tune and some injectors with a little bit of weight loss to get 500-600whp without spending 5k. No need to go into the internals or order kits or what not. In 2003 parts weren't so cheap for cobras either. A 2003 cobra vs a 2003 evo stock for stock on the track the evo would win. Yeah the cobra has more power but weigh way more then the evo. The balance of power to weight is much greater in the evo then with the mustang. The evo started off at 28k other options could be added. The cobra is around 34-36k so again if our budget was to build a race car in 2003 and all we had was 40k I would come out on top with the evo.
I just posted a video of a evo vs a 2004 cobra with almost the same power and the cobra didn't even come close. He out at least 4 cars on him.
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Do you realize that the Cobra platform was already well developed back then? Porting the stock blower made great power, and most of the Cobra were in the 10's easily - all the way back then. You didn't see the Evo's in the 10's on a regular basis, and you don't even see a lot of them in the 10's now. If you change the blower on the Cobra, or switch it to turbo, you can go much, much faster.
I can post videos all day also. Here is an 8 second street legal Terminator. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GczOoZHKZ6U
It takes a Buschur or AMS race car to do an 8 second Evo 8.
Now, here is a question. Since you have all of them fast Evo's, where are they when there are big money races? I never see them at any Outlaw events. Is a $10K race not enough money for them to come out? Can they be built to run 4.4@187 like a Mustang - in the 1/8th? This is a local guy 9and no, nothing is stock - nothing). SGMP Lights Out ll Redemption Drag Radial DVD Highlights - YouTube
Don't get me wrong though. Evo 8's (or any other car) that goes that quick is very fast. It's just easier to build a car to go fast that has a huge amount of support and parts available on the cheap. It's also easier to start out with more displacement.
"Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting." - Steve McQueen
You aren't going to convince him. He's just dumb.
Ive sat here for 10 minutes face palming thinking of what to say to this kid.... it really is a waste of time. For someone so inexperienced, he spouts off accusations as if theyre concrete facts with shameless confidence, even though 90% of everything he says is utterly ridiculous nonsense. It really is pointless to debate with him. He "knows" what he "knows" and isnt interested in seeking the truth.
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