i half to say ^^^^ that way one slow ass race if you go by the video... did they even hit 100??
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i half to say ^^^^ that way one slow ass race if you go by the video... did they even hit 100??
http://youtu.be/-CCEV5McpxU
just to end all the curiousity about the hatch... here is a video yall can see... this is before the carbon fiber, AFI manifold, velocity stack throug the bumper and all the engine upgrades that we did... we dont hide shit and we not claiming to be the fastest, but just know that we are RELEVANT !!!!!!!
i dont even know which one is your car, and no time was posted at the end.
Like i said, im sure it IS fast, it def looks like it, but take away the slicks and its a 13 second car at best. I mean are you really gonna roll out on slicks for a dig street race?
An all the All Motor guys know that eventually you will run out of MPH so again i would not be scared of any NA honda from a dig or roll race ON THE STREET
dude...fall back cause u dont know me like that.... if im running for money on the street ur fuccin right im putting my slicks on the car.... i ride around with them in the car.... i dont waste time on street tires.. if i wanted to run street tires i would put a gsr and ride out. and fyi the 6 speed tranny works perfectly fine in the quarter mile....so once again u dont know me like that so fall back.
but let me shut up and pay respect to the all motor king of ATL.........hahahahahaha....too funny
yea dude fall back......:thinking:
NYC IS IN THE BUILDING!!!
I'm with H22Jones, I want to see this all go down at ImportShowdown.
u have no idea LMAO.
they will let u leave lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRTRv...eature=related
Vteckidd is the master, he can build it better!! LMAO..
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Get your brain together and build a car Mike.. I'm sure since you took a tuning class, and you know every engine combo known to man, that you can build something "All Motor" to outrun us all!!
DO IT!!!
Nyc boys obviously don't get it either. Atlanta isn't new York fellas. Slicks is an automatic drag racing ticket here. What do you think you're Pacman lol
Oooo how dare I not bow to the nyce1 people :lame:
You posted a video with no time , looks fast but if it ran 12s its not the fastest car in Atlanta. 11s would have to be where it ran
Bobby I already built my cars, and still 6 years later no one can come CLOSE to my 237whp b series. 700whp 240? Did that too.
Don't act like I haven't built a car before, quit riding someone else's nuts. You wanna debate cars, anyone buddy name the time and place
I don't speak new York so I assume that is like our version of "back off"
I didn't say anything disrespectful. I said the car looks fast, but a video with no time is hardly earth shattering to me. Sorry.
And yeah I highly doubt you'll find anyone in Atlanta to street race you slicks for slicks on the street. Which means your car goes from an 11second car to a 13 second car ok street tires. Do you disagree?
So again I stand by my statement, any super fast NA Honda has to be on slicks, street tires any car is beatable. There just aren't 11.7-12.2 NA hondas running 215 dot tires, sorry
Unless you can prove me wrong
Im running low 12s mike with a stock 5 gen prelude gearing . Look it up but im sure the car could trap over 160 lol the gearing is terrible but its a dailey. i do agree with the 4.9 final in the new set up it would run out mph . I cant wait to get jasons car together then finish my new build . All this shit talking has me kinda hyped up then again some of it gets on my nerves and makes me wonder how old some of these people are . I like to get along with everybody so i want name names lol.
I do agree that lets say jason (the guy i built the motor for that should be pretty stout ) came on here acting like a few of the people on here do that (even though he is a good friend and i built his car )i would have no problem telling him how big if a prick he was being even if it made him think i was a ass hole just saying.
I also dont understand why gregg keeps making such a big deal about people keeping secrets about there build when you wanted to keep all your shit secret yourself. i mean we all grown and even though i try to post up as much stuff about my build as i can to help people there is no way in hell im telling anybody everything i do. Hell for that matter jason dont and want know everything thats done to his own motor lol. If he tore it down he couldnt even tell me everything i do by looking at it. Nemo rode around with a lock on his hood cleaning up the atl streets with his ls-vtec (h2b on spray) but nobody hated on him for being secretive . There is just some stuff you have to leard yourself and if you dont you will never be the fastest or anywere near the fastest. Do you think 9even his car will be a beast soon) jason car will ever be faster then mine? Of course not i built it why in the hell would i built his faster . Dont get me wrong if somebody brings a parts list and tells me to assemble it i will do as they ask and if its faster so be it but i dont beleive anybody around here knows more about h motors then me so therefore nobody will have a faster one . If they do hell i might ask them a question or two i dont have to much pride thats how you learn.
I cant count the number of times someone that i was building a motor for called and said man we cant do that i read that was wrong. I then preceed to tell them stop reading shit from people that dont know what there talking when ive already done it before. I have probbably talked less shit then anybody on here to have such a stout car for such a long period of time and a even stouter motor in the process of being built. Dont get me wrong i enjoy the shit talking but some of this is just a little to childess . gregg you have a very nice platform for a fast car . If you want to know why i say it like that its because i judge each car for what it is. If your car doesnt do what it should then its not fast. In other word a ten second 500hp car running low 12s is slow understand? I feel like a none gutted 2,480 pound si hatch running low 12s is fast could it faster yes but if i lose im not going to say wait till i gut it or go h2b ,im just going to say good race man my dad drives the car everyday so this is how we choose to leave it. Im no talking bad about your car but if its not running 11s with that power then its slow simple as that . I know that the time i put into getting a car were it needs to be cant be bought when it gets to the point that gregg,mosely,me and a few others are at you have to know something about cars to get it the last step of the way or work at a shop that wants it right to sponsor them period. You cant pay enough money to justify the time it takes to get it that last step and thats were you are gregg. Im sure you will put forth the effort it takes to get your car there and i look forward to seeing it make them 11 second runs but dont destroy the image of the car and make it a joke untill it gets there please.
Many more people like me don't care to post numbers just to claim a title, regardless if it can/can't make your all motor number is not the point..
NOW, These guys brought some life back in the All Motor game.. As far as the nut swinger shit, I have to LOL.. That was good!! My comment was a joke, they know what I'm talking about.. It's like your "baller" joke, Ya I make jokes too!!
Im glad at all the interest in the allmotor scene . I hope everybody shows up for import showdown and if anybody wants to know just how slow our cars are read on honda tech sometimes. I guess thats why its so hard for me to get on here and act like some of you guys and be so proud of what i have when were five years behing on all this shit. Google any real question you got about a build and the date of the thread of the answer will be five years ago. Stock h2b hatch are making 210hp thats 15-25 more hp then a stock tranny h series build ( i know because ive owned five they all made around 185hp and ran 13.5-136 bone stock). Does that mean i would make 25 more hp with a h2b ? i guess then in reality im making more hp then graig just havnt bolted then tranny up yet lol. Lets just keep to the facts guys and leave the woulda shoulda shit at home.
In reality there all shit boxes and want be worth a penny more 50 years from now then they are today . I cant beleive that anyone in here wouldnt rather have a 69 camera with a blower sticking out the hood then our shit box hondas that we can afford . Im sure that not one of use is doing anything anybody else out there hasnt done or tried already and there is nothing magical about our cars they are what they lets all step down off the pedestale were own or we could drive to calafornia and let them show use how much we realy dont know lol.
if your running for money be honest about weither your spraying or not . If your going to brag about winning be honest about weither you were spraying if it is supposed to be a na race . Other then that its nobodys f*CKING buisness whats under your hood . lets have some integrity people please because after all the shit talking we all enjoy the same thing fast cars well the ones of use that have fast cars seems alot of people these days enjoy slow cars and fast computers lol.
All i want is a 11s consistent hatch that i dailey and gets over 25 miles to the gallon . After i acheive that i want give a shit who out runs me my car will be respectable and thats all that matters. I will agree like mike said after you get into the 12s on the street its anybodys race . Its just to hard to get it to the ground ( after that point with out slicks) so yes its not that hard for a car making 30 less hp to win on the street traction is everything. Mikes crx was fast and im sure it was faster with the super charger and lower final but ive never heard him just go on and on about how much faster it was with the super charger and lower final because ther is just so much power you can use on the streets.
In a normal race mike (im sure you raced the same cars with and with out the super charger and lower final ) how many car lenghts difference you think 10 pounds and a lower final helped you win by ? Just trying to show how much you have to do to get so little especaily on the street with no traction.
Mike, I love the DOT tire comment, I have DOT tires, never ran the 1/4 in this car.. BUT it seen the 1/8, went 8.12@88 with a crap 60ft of the trailor.. No air pressure drop (32psi) that was the first ever pass 4yrs ago, My car has never seen slicks!!! If you really know anything then you see where I'm going with this.. ;)
Its funny that you say that cause the only reason someone will not pop their hood on an all motor car is because they have spray... ;)
I welcome anyone to look at my motor, not much to look at.. :) BUT, I enjoy getting the "how much you spraying" comment.. Makes me laugh!!
There you go down playing again lol. If it ran that it was hooking weither it had air pressure adjustment or not. That should have been a good pass since you have plenty of air in the tires and still hooked . Ive ran mid 12s with that 1/8 mile with flat slicks killing my trap on the other end . Unless b series dont pull like h series on the other end of the track that should have been a nice pass mid 12s for sure unless its been so long since ive made a pass that im forgetting my 1/8 mile times. Im pretty sure i was varely breaking 8.9 1/8 with a stock h22 and now im high 7s so yea that sounds about right . Mid 12s at 110mph that pass just guessing so what does it run?
hell ive never broke a axle on slicks and poped a 400hp axle on dragg radials last spring at import show down . I never got a good pass with dragg radials because my gearing already sucks and the drag radials are way taller then my slicks but the trapped out real good. I think i ran like a 12.7 at 112 on drag radials ill have to look.
I enjoy the how many pounds of boost comment myself lol. nemo never claimed not to have spray everybody just though he had a ls vtec thats why he wouldnt pop his hood it had nothing to do with the spray hell the bottle was mounted in the spare tire well with no interior lol. Gregg has tried to be secrative about his set up from the start which i have no problem with . I just dont understand why he has a problem with everybody else not telling there exact setup. I guess its because he still cant figure out how he got beat with a car making less power so it must have been spraying lol. Ill show him because im sure ill get beat at import showdown do to gearing and weight but ill probably have more hp lol. We just didnt build this car to race hell i had to twist my dads arm to pull out the f20b and put this motor in that car . I told him we mine as well because i wasnt using nothing off this motor in the new setup and all it did in my accord was break shit ,alot of shit. 13 axles,3 half shafts,1 fly wheel which flew threw the front of the tranny lol. It was steal fly wheel to . 250hp + 19inch wheels just dont like each other.
man i got a t2t4 tranny which is the same gearing as a fifht gen prelude which makes your gsr look like a b16 with a 4.9 diff trust me my shit is geared high as hell. I barely shift into fourth running low 12s in the quarter if that tells you anything with 22 inch slicks.
I just hope with all the talk everybody is doing mosely or chunky (who ever owns the car ) makes a 11 seconde pass or im going to be dissapointed . Not that they have been bragging it just seems thats the car everybody is basing there car off of so i would hope its a 11 second car with all the publicity lol. Hell when we won the last import show down i was glad because my son got his trophy but with the bolt falling out of the throttle cable bracket not letting the butter fly open pass half way it only ran a 12.7 i was pretty dissapointed honestly. Like i said when a car thats suppose to run alot quicker then it does runs alot slower its slow no matter what the time is and our car was realy slow that day .
every since my son has gotten big enough to walk all he talks about is how fast something is lol. he is what keeps me doing this shit well him and it gives me and my dad something to do together . My son is only four and he lives for the track. I have to let him wear his helmet and ride with me to get the tech card. They always say your not going to let him ride down the track are you lol. he wants to ride down the track so bad lol.
either you got a realy low geared tranny(which you say is a gsr lol) or you have a pretty fast car that should give anybody on hear talking shit a run for there money guess we will see at import show down . You know what they say the track dont lie simple as that. Ive raced at the track for 15 years i know my numbers and about what they should be.
Good input mike I like what you're saying.
For the first 3 years when Luis had the hatch, we were always 100% open about the setup and what it had. every video posted had all the details.
then it wasn't until he got more involved with the guys here on IA that all this drama and secretive stuff started. haha
So I've posted recently in other forums and sure word travels so some people already know but the hatch has a set of toda a3 cams in it. maybe not the best cam for a K20 but they seem to be on par on top end power at least. again I think dyno #s are just dyno #s so I don't want to get into that.
I plan on being there for import showdown, and since everyone in ATL who gives a damn will be there or know someone who will be there, there's no point in me being secretive about what the car runs. My best ET so far at commerce was a 12.24, best trap 111.8. those were all with 1.75-1.77 60' times though. I went back to commerce after sorting some things out, cut a 1.67 60' but missed a gear, then busted an axle the next run :)
I hear silver dollar is usually a tenth or two quicker than commerce so if I can cut a 1.6x down there I'll be shooting for an 11.9x. not sure if it'll do it though.
anyway hope to meet you down there and maybe we can get in a fun run or two. my car is gutted so the rules don't suite me well, I'll be doing TnT
Ya, I know the feeling.. My son is three and well hes a junky all ready.. "Daddy red car fast vrrrooom" He trips me out with the comments!! Open header and he thinks we are flying... Even tells me to go at the red lights, geeezzz.. To funny tho, my dad says i was the same way growing up..
Sorry to hear that the race isnt worth winning if there isnt a race if you know what i mean . I think there is going to be a couple more fast all motor hondas this time so it should be good. If diskoe monkey shows up that car is a beast if anybody deserves props its him .
my son says papa dales car is slowww and daddys car is fast . I think we have him confussed since i put my motor in dads car lol. Im sure when i bring out the new setup he will say papa dales car is slow again lol.
I hope on motor . im sure even at the weight our car is at and the shity gearing its capable of a 11 second pass with the few things we have changed. It would be hell on wheels with a cheater kit lol.
yeah on motor for sure. if I was trapping 111 on spray I would be failing. I'm really curious though, might bring the plugs and bottle and make an exhibition run then get yelled at for not having a cage :boobies:
Nobody tends to regulate anything at these events . I have yet to see anybody wearing helmets running 12s. I have to wear them at test and tune running 13s.