Callout: MOSELEY

[1civic]

That K20A hatch Sprayed on that K24 hatch, thats how they won.. Watch the video, they don't run N/A anymore.. They Spray every race and claim N/A.. BOOOO!!!

[Vteckidd]

That K20A hatch Sprayed on that K24 hatch, thats how they won.. Watch the video, they don't run N/A anymore.. They Spray every race and claim N/A.. BOOOO!!!

bullshit, i know the owners of both cars, if they said they didnt spray they didnt. Greg lost, PERIOD. People said luis sprayed on me too, i know they were wrong.

No money was on the line, i refuse to believe people like Mosely (who although cocky has always been honest) are immature and childish enough to lie simply to put on a front about how fast their car is.

Both cars were NA, i have my sources too

[1civic]

bullshit, i know the owners of both cars, if they said they didnt spray they didnt. Greg lost, PERIOD. People said luis sprayed on me too, i know they were wrong.

No money was on the line, i refuse to believe people like Mosely (who although cocky has always been honest) are immature and childish enough to lie simply to put on a front about how fast their car is.

Both cars were NA, i have my sources too

Damn Mike, That K24 makes 270hp, weighs 2000lbs.. That K20A on Spray makes 300hp.. That K24 never pulled back in that race which mean what?
Just to fishy for me.. Luis owns the car, not pecker nut.. "If you do own it Moseley Post the Title up", Your a fool and I don't trust your ass, Luis was Cool the day I raced him and I know it had spray but he ran N/A..

BUT did anyone check the car that night they raced?

p.s
I have my reason for backing down on the rematch against that k20 hatch in the street, But if he is at IFO then I can't back down..

[Vteckidd]

Damn Mike, That K24 makes 270hp, weighs 2000lbs.. That K20A on Spray makes 300hp.. That K24 never pulled back in that race which mean what?
Just to fishy for me.. Luis owns the car, not pecker nut.. "If you do own it Moseley Post the Title up", Your a fool and I don't trust your ass, Luis was Cool the day I raced him and I know it had spray but he ran N/A..

Mosely owns the car thats what chunky said and i believe him

Come on man you been around A LONG Time and you are a hustler just like the rest of us. YOu know HP DOESNT MEAN SHIT. Ok my car made 198whp, luis made 23X and he won by what 1 car? and it was mostly on top end? Why didnt he pull 3-4 cars like he should have? Cause HP isnt everything. i had 1000 more RPMs than he did and my car weighed slightly less, and had much longer gearing.

Greg lost, and it was NA vs NA, stop making excuses sound as bad as him. greg lost, and if mosely said he didnt spray, he didnt. If he did, well he has to live with knowing he cheated to win. But i dont think his ego is that big, sorry.

Simple enough to clear up, run the same race again, outcome should be the same.

[BABY J]

If some1 wants to run you dirty, NOBODY will know (if it's done right) - regardless of sources. That's the whole point of running somebody dirty. What's the HP / TQ difference from the 2 cars - and the weights w/ drivers...

[1civic]

What's the HP / TQ difference from the 2 cars - and the weights w/ drivers...

239/166 K20A 2000lbs(KIZDAWAY).... 271/201 K24 2000lbs(Greg)

Edit:
Ether this dude just can't drive, or they sprayed that K20A.. Gearing or not, that k24 should have run him down quick on the big-end...
Just my 2 cents

[Vteckidd]

239/166 K20A 2000lbs(KIZDAWAY).... 271/201 K24 2000lbs(Greg)

Edit:
Ether this dude just can't drive, or they sprayed that K20A.. Gearing or not, that k24 should have run him down quick on the big-end...
Just my 2 cents

Does anyone know if Mosely/Luis car dynoes the same it did 6 months ago? who is to say he isnt making 250-255whp ? Assuming a lot.

I do not know any mods done cause im way out of the game, i just happened to read this thread and laughed.

[1civic]

Does anyone know if Mosely/Luis car dynoes the same it did 6 months ago? who is to say he isnt making 250-255whp ? Assuming a lot.

I do not know any mods done cause im way out of the game, i just happened to read this thread and laughed.

I know their game, but I can't be for sure if the New Motor is in.. And Moseley texted saying it wasn't his car...lol, he got caught up in his text.. Ether-way it doesn't matter to me.. I've been away from the streets to long to kept up with all the cars..lol

EDIT:
Based off that, I can't risk losing 500 bones and pop'in a good motor just to prove a point.. At IFO i'll know they are N/A..

[BABY J]

239/166 K20A 2000lbs(KIZDAWAY).... 271/201 K24 2000lbs(Greg)

Edit:
Ether this dude just can't drive, or they sprayed that K20A.. Gearing or not, that k24 should have run him down quick on the big-end...
Just my 2 cents

We have a winner here (w/ respect to traction). That's how I see it. Greg you got heavy springs out back? You don't have to rev as high when the opponent has a 40 foot lb torque delta to make up. Greg got sprayed - and played.

[Vteckidd]

well regardless Greg cant rev as high, and judging by his "i wasnt in my sweet spot" im leaning towards the check driver light is on

[1civic]

well regardless Greg cant rev as high, and judging by his "i wasnt in my sweet spot" im leaning towards the check driver light is on

Thats what I was thinking, I gave my advice of reading the dyno sheet..lol

[h22 jones]

x2 advice has been given but you cant help somebody that knows it all lol.

[BABY J]

Greg don't change your MPH. Set it up again from their MPH and pop hoods and look the car over this time. You don't easily cover 40 ft lbs and 30 hp w/ gearing. My guess is they were on the sauce.

[Moseley]

For all you old farts like me who remember the fried egg commercial...

This is my K
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyXdRQsPZD4

This is my K on spray (75 shot)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdPJhqsyGZ0

Any questions?

[Moseley]

Greg don't change your MPH. Set it up again from their MPH and pop hoods and look the car over this time. You don't easily cover 40 ft lbs and 30 hp w/ gearing. My guess is they were on the sauce.

The funny thing about this is that the first thing I noticed that night when I walked over to Greg's car was his bottle chillin' next to him, hooked up, gauge reading about 900psi... I was like wtf is this shit?

...meanwhile mine was chillin' in the garage. lol

[justnprsh07]

Lol so truetrue

[Moseley]

LMAO this thread is cracking me up. we're definitely internet racing. who says those numbers for my car are even right. I happen to know what Greg's car weighs and mine is lighter. simple as that. FYI the 2nd gear in my tranny is 20% shorter, hence 20% more power to the ground . it's not that hard to figure out.

[1civic]

LMAO this thread is cracking me up. we're definitely internet racing. who says those numbers for my car are even right. I happen to know what Greg's car weighs and mine is lighter. simple as that. FYI the 2nd gear in my tranny is 20% shorter, hence 20% more power to the ground . it's not that hard to figure out.

You claim it's the same motor, and you said he makes 30 more HP.. Even with the 240 you guys race you claimed N/A at 240hp..

What gives man, Are you up-set that your 10,000k motor only makes 250-260?

O wait you have some insane final gear installed which gave you 50hp?..

Post the Reg, or Title up proving it's your car man..

Your out to prove something so prove it?

[Vteckidd]

i dont think im overspeaking when i say

Luis/Moselys car is K20A, ITR trans (5.X final drive) and i think he revs it to 9000 tops. Never heard 10,000 out of it.

I saw it and i dynoed it personally at Mainstream, it was a stock motor that made 240ish whp. I was surprised, but there was NO BOTTLE, and everything he said about the car made sense according to the MPH and dyno chart.

there is the bottle on it, but it was never used when i ran him, and i doubt it was used against greg. he doesnt need to use it. the cars are not that unevenly matched, sorry.

Conversely bobby arent you claiming your 180whp LSVTEC beat his 240whp K20? there is no way you car made more than MY STILL RECORD HOLDING 237whp B Series. There hasnt been proof or a dyno chart anywhere near 20whp of my car i had 7 years ago.

[1civic]

Conversely bobby arent you claiming your 180whp LSVTEC beat his 240whp K20? there is no way you car made more than MY STILL RECORD HOLDING 237whp B Series.

No need for me to prove anything, but yes my full weight junkyard hatch pulled from that same 239hp K20A hatch, video was posted..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRW2F...eature=related

[Vteckidd]

sorry emmino, ok still 20whp from my old motor

Sorry bobby, your hatch made AT LEAST 210-220 to pull that car. i know cause my CRX made 200whp and lost by a car with a 4.4. so i know what your car had to make. or you had a 4.9. Surprised any car runs that good without any proof of what it makes :P

[EmminoDaGreat]

good news is gregg knows better than to spray, since he hasn't been tuned yet.

[EmminoDaGreat]

oh contrair mike, last friday, b series made 217 on oem bottom end stuff.

[1civic]

oh contrair mike, last friday, b series made 217 on oem bottom end stuff.

I'd be happy if my 4dr made that..lol, Mike is the NA ALL MOTOR KING Tho!! Let him shine...lol

[EmminoDaGreat]

I like turbos.

[1civic]

I like turbos.

Are those what make you go fast? ~installs one~ Ok, WSSSSH!! Ya, I'm cool now guys!!

[chunky]

Are those what make you go fast? ~installs one~ Ok, WSSSSH!! Ya, I'm cool now guys!!

WHOA WHOA WHOA. Hold on for a second here. Did you ask your wife if it's okay to be on the internet past your bedtime?

[1civic]

Thanks for the video Moseley, but you better put a progressive set-up on that thing if you plan on running from a dig...lol

[EmminoDaGreat]

In my case, no. In most case yes.

[h22 jones]

If the trannys wernt so far apart in gearing i might would even say he sprayed but i looked up the gearing on the tranny calculator and even if he dont have a lower final the six speed is so much lower then the five speed that its insane. So think about it if they started at a 40 role and gregg was at around 4,800 rpms and moselys car was at 5,500 rpms ( i checked the tranny calculator so this should be real close if both tranny have stock diffs) then that could be the difference in 30hp. My point is according to my dyno i make 30 more hp at 5,500 rpms then i do at 4,800 (theres could be even more of a difference then that). So greggs extra hp just got shot to shit because of gearing lol. Im guessing gregg is supposed to be making 20 more hp then mosely well according to the rpms they started at mosely had at least a 30 hp advantage so then you subtract the 20 more hp that gregg is making and you get that mosely car was making 10 more hp then gregg was when they started the race .probably pretty much keep that advantage through out the race. Im going by my dyno sheets getting these numbers and theres could very some but are probably pretty close to this. Even looking at it this way it still doesnt add in the 20 percent more power 9just because of the gearing) this just shows the motor hp.

let me put it this way everybody knows if you put a b16 on a h22 you lose half a second in the quarter because of how much the gearing helps well that is what is happening to gregg in this race simple as that. It takes 230hp to run 12.9-13.0 flat with a h series swap in a eg or you can bolt in a 185hp h22 and put a b16 trany on it and run the same numbers . Thats 45hp difference so tell me gearing isnt everything ? Mike didnt rock the 4.9 diff in a street car with a super charger for nothing lol.

Everybody hears that somebody is making 270hp and thats twenty more hp then moesly he should lose. We forget the fact that on that dyno chart he only makes 271hp for a split second not the whole race lol. I dont think greggs car is a dyno queen by no means but i could post up mine and nemos dyno chart over laying each other and you guys would see just how much that top 271hp number doesnt mean shit . I think i made 1hp more then nemo on the dyno but 30 more hp through out the power band the difference is unreal but if we both got on here and posted that i made 252hp and he made 251hp you guys would think they were real close motors but there not even close to being close. I mine as well made 280hp and nemo made 250hp because i have 30 more hp the whole time were racing even though we both made the same top number . im not hating on nemos motor the main reason for the big difference in our motors is he built his for nitrous so he didnt run as much compression as i do . lets say nemo through a set of pro3 cams in the car and made 260hp so now my motor has ten less hp? wrong lol now i only have 20 more hp across the power band lol. Ill try to post up our dynos so you guys can understand what im saying . Greggs was out geared and his tourqe falls off pretty good on his motor that top number doesnt mean shit . Just by watching the race ill beat there isnt 20hp difference between them motors anywere but at peak power .

[*EFilliated*]

If the trannys wernt so far apart in gearing i might would even say he sprayed but i looked up the gearing on the tranny calculator and even if he dont have a lower final the six speed is so much lower then the five speed that its insane. So think about it if they started at a 40 role and gregg was at around 4,800 rpms and moselys car was at 5,500 rpms ( i checked the tranny calculator so this should be real close if both tranny have stock diffs) then that could be the difference in 30hp. My point is according to my dyno i make 30 more hp at 5,500 rpms then i do at 4,800 (theres could be even more of a difference then that). So greggs extra hp just got shot to shit because of gearing lol. Im guessing gregg is supposed to be making 20 more hp then mosely well according to the rpms they started at mosely had at least a 30 hp advantage so then you subtract the 20 more hp that gregg is making and you get that mosely car was making 10 more hp then gregg was when they started the race .probably pretty much keep that advantage through out the race. Im going by my dyno sheets getting these numbers and theres could very some but are probably pretty close to this. Even looking at it this way it still doesnt add in the 20 percent more power 9just because of the gearing) this just shows the motor hp.

let me put it this way everybody knows if you put a b16 on a h22 you lose half a second in the quarter because of how much the gearing helps well that is what is happening to gregg in this race simple as that. It takes 230hp to run 12.9-13.0 flat with a h series swap in a eg or you can bolt in a 185hp h22 and put a b16 trany on it and run the same numbers . Thats 45hp difference so tell me gearing isnt everything ? Mike didnt rock the 4.9 diff in a street car with a super charger for nothing lol.

Everybody hears that somebody is making 270hp and thats twenty more hp then moesly he should lose. We forget the fact that on that dyno chart he only makes 271hp for a split second not the whole race lol. I dont think greggs car is a dyno queen by no means but i could post up mine and nemos dyno chart over laying each other and you guys would see just how much that top 271hp number doesnt mean shit . I think i made 1hp more then nemo on the dyno but 30 more hp through out the power band the difference is unreal but if we both got on here and posted that i made 252hp and he made 251hp you guys would think they were real close motors but there not even close to being close. I mine as well made 280hp and nemo made 250hp because i have 30 more hp the whole time were racing even though we both made the same top number . im not hating on nemos motor the main reason for the big difference in our motors is he built his for nitrous so he didnt run as much compression as i do . lets say nemo through a set of pro3 cams in the car and made 260hp so now my motor has ten less hp? wrong lol now i only have 20 more hp across the power band lol. Ill try to post up our dynos so you guys can understand what im saying . Greggs was out geared and his tourqe falls off pretty good on his motor that top number doesnt mean shit . Just by watching the race ill beat there isnt 20hp difference between them motors anywere but at peak power .

[Z0_o6]

Mike.... 2 words to sum up your post.

torque curve.

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