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    I asked did your car ever pull back on him gregg ? I cant see in the video and id like to know . I agree there is a huge difference in the five and six speed tranny (ive stated that) but your not talking about changing trannys your talking about starting 5 miles an hour faster just not going to make even a car length differnce sorry ive done enough racing to make that opion. I have no doubt that you will tweak your car and get faster im not doubting that at all man its a beast . Im just saying like these two cars sit that night ill beat whatever you want your car will lose if you start 5 or even 15 miles and hour faster simple as that . Do you make less hp at higher rpms ? Of course not so when you gain rpms he gains rpms so when you gain power he gains power man . Ive looked at your dyno sheet you dont have a place were you have a 30hp dipp thats magicaly holding you back and if you can just get past it you will win its not there just stating my opion. if you want to beat him buy a 6 speed trany or a lower diff for yours. All nitrous is going to do is lenghten your gears out if it makes you reeve higher so the six speed or the lower diff would be great man. I mean you just got out run in a role race by a car that puts down 30 less hp . You both have the same set ups besides the trany it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what the problem is. Ill tell you what ask pawn shop ceo (who im building the 280hp motor for) how much a difference the trany makes. I tried and tried to get him to get a lower tranny and he wouldnt listen because the t2t4 is a hard to find tranny. I have a bone stock h22 cx hatch full interior untunned it ran 13.6 all day. He a 227hp built h fully tunned with a completely stripped hatch . I mean no interior ,fenders ,bumpers lol he had nothing on the car . He ran 13.6 in that car one time and i would bust his ass on the street in a role race anytime he wanted it . He made 42 more hp then i did and weighed less so you tell me why his car was so slow . It was his gearing makes all the difference in the world. I can remember 8 years ago when all the turbo guys wanted ls tranys and was ahving trouble running tens (steven evans ) with 600hp. Now guys are running 10s (jonathan monopar) with 450hp WITH A B16 TRANNY. Gearing is everything buy a six speed or lower diff and realy see what your car doing. You make 30 more hp you should be able to give him his sweet spot and come around him . Im sure with his 2.0 bottom end that he is reeving the piss out it wich is lengthening his sort gears while you have a longer geared tranny and a 2.4 bottom end so im sure your not making power as high as he is . I could be wrong about that statement but i doubt it . Id like to see his dyno chart and im sure with a smaller stroke he is making peak hp about 500rpms higher then you are . If i can tell all this by reading the little shit on here and watching a video then maybe i know what im talking about just maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h22 jones View Post
    I asked did your car ever pull back on him gregg ? I cant see in the video and id like to know . I agree there is a huge difference in the five and six speed tranny (ive stated that) but your not talking about changing trannys your talking about starting 5 miles an hour faster just not going to make even a car length differnce sorry ive done enough racing to make that opion. I have no doubt that you will tweak your car and get faster im not doubting that at all man its a beast . Im just saying like these two cars sit that night ill beat whatever you want your car will lose if you start 5 or even 15 miles and hour faster simple as that . Do you make less hp at higher rpms ? Of course not so when you gain rpms he gains rpms so when you gain power he gains power man . Ive looked at your dyno sheet you dont have a place were you have a 30hp dipp thats magicaly holding you back and if you can just get past it you will win its not there just stating my opion. if you want to beat him buy a 6 speed trany or a lower diff for yours. All nitrous is going to do is lenghten your gears out if it makes you reeve higher so the six speed or the lower diff would be great man. I mean you just got out run in a role race by a car that puts down 30 less hp . You both have the same set ups besides the trany it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what the problem is. Ill tell you what ask pawn shop ceo (who im building the 280hp motor for) how much a difference the trany makes. I tried and tried to get him to get a lower tranny and he wouldnt listen because the t2t4 is a hard to find tranny. I have a bone stock h22 cx hatch full interior untunned it ran 13.6 all day. He a 227hp built h fully tunned with a completely stripped hatch . I mean no interior ,fenders ,bumpers lol he had nothing on the car . He ran 13.6 in that car one time and i would bust his ass on the street in a role race anytime he wanted it . He made 42 more hp then i did and weighed less so you tell me why his car was so slow . It was his gearing makes all the difference in the world. I can remember 8 years ago when all the turbo guys wanted ls tranys and was ahving trouble running tens (steven evans ) with 600hp. Now guys are running 10s (jonathan monopar) with 450hp WITH A B16 TRANNY. Gearing is everything buy a six speed or lower diff and realy see what your car doing. You make 30 more hp you should be able to give him his sweet spot and come around him . Im sure with his 2.0 bottom end that he is reeving the piss out it wich is lengthening his sort gears while you have a longer geared tranny and a 2.4 bottom end so im sure your not making power as high as he is . I could be wrong about that statement but i doubt it . Id like to see his dyno chart and im sure with a smaller stroke he is making peak hp about 500rpms higher then you are . If i can tell all this by reading the little shit on here and watching a video then maybe i know what im talking about just maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jody754 View Post
    you car has 400 and went ????? oh yea you only nascar race. you need a pace car? tell your boy in the SI if he wants a shot at it ill show him what 350 really looks like. and yes my car does make more than 350 but its called hondata and its only on WG on the street thats all you need around here with all these slow shits
    Hey im proud of my 11.13 with 400hp
    Quote Originally Posted by h22 jones View Post
    I asked did your car ever pull back on him gregg ? I cant see in the video and id like to know . I agree there is a huge difference in the five and six speed tranny (ive stated that) but your not talking about changing trannys your talking about starting 5 miles an hour faster just not going to make even a car length differnce sorry ive done enough racing to make that opion. I have no doubt that you will tweak your car and get faster im not doubting that at all man its a beast . Im just saying like these two cars sit that night ill beat whatever you want your car will lose if you start 5 or even 15 miles and hour faster simple as that . Do you make less hp at higher rpms ? Of course not so when you gain rpms he gains rpms so when you gain power he gains power man . Ive looked at your dyno sheet you dont have a place were you have a 30hp dipp thats magicaly holding you back and if you can just get past it you will win its not there just stating my opion. if you want to beat him buy a 6 speed trany or a lower diff for yours. All nitrous is going to do is lenghten your gears out if it makes you reeve higher so the six speed or the lower diff would be great man. I mean you just got out run in a role race by a car that puts down 30 less hp . You both have the same set ups besides the trany it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what the problem is. Ill tell you what ask pawn shop ceo (who im building the 280hp motor for) how much a difference the trany makes. I tried and tried to get him to get a lower tranny and he wouldnt listen because the t2t4 is a hard to find tranny. I have a bone stock h22 cx hatch full interior untunned it ran 13.6 all day. He a 227hp built h fully tunned with a completely stripped hatch . I mean no interior ,fenders ,bumpers lol he had nothing on the car . He ran 13.6 in that car one time and i would bust his ass on the street in a role race anytime he wanted it . He made 42 more hp then i did and weighed less so you tell me why his car was so slow . It was his gearing makes all the difference in the world. I can remember 8 years ago when all the turbo guys wanted ls tranys and was ahving trouble running tens (steven evans ) with 600hp. Now guys are running 10s (jonathan monopar) with 450hp WITH A B16 TRANNY. Gearing is everything buy a six speed or lower diff and realy see what your car doing. You make 30 more hp you should be able to give him his sweet spot and come around him . Im sure with his 2.0 bottom end that he is reeving the piss out it wich is lengthening his sort gears while you have a longer geared tranny and a 2.4 bottom end so im sure your not making power as high as he is . I could be wrong about that statement but i doubt it . Id like to see his dyno chart and im sure with a smaller stroke he is making peak hp about 500rpms higher then you are . If i can tell all this by reading the little shit on here and watching a video then maybe i know what im talking about just maybe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h22 jones View Post
    I asked did your car ever pull back on him gregg ? I cant see in the video and id like to know . I agree there is a huge difference in the five and six speed tranny (ive stated that) but your not talking about changing trannys your talking about starting 5 miles an hour faster just not going to make even a car length differnce sorry ive done enough racing to make that opion. I have no doubt that you will tweak your car and get faster im not doubting that at all man its a beast . Im just saying like these two cars sit that night ill beat whatever you want your car will lose if you start 5 or even 15 miles and hour faster simple as that . Do you make less hp at higher rpms ? Of course not so when you gain rpms he gains rpms so when you gain power he gains power man . Ive looked at your dyno sheet you dont have a place were you have a 30hp dipp thats magicaly holding you back and if you can just get past it you will win its not there just stating my opion. if you want to beat him buy a 6 speed trany or a lower diff for yours. All nitrous is going to do is lenghten your gears out if it makes you reeve higher so the six speed or the lower diff would be great man. I mean you just got out run in a role race by a car that puts down 30 less hp . You both have the same set ups besides the trany it doesnt take a rocket scientist to figure out what the problem is. Ill tell you what ask pawn shop ceo (who im building the 280hp motor for) how much a difference the trany makes. I tried and tried to get him to get a lower tranny and he wouldnt listen because the t2t4 is a hard to find tranny. I have a bone stock h22 cx hatch full interior untunned it ran 13.6 all day. He a 227hp built h fully tunned with a completely stripped hatch . I mean no interior ,fenders ,bumpers lol he had nothing on the car . He ran 13.6 in that car one time and i would bust his ass on the street in a role race anytime he wanted it . He made 42 more hp then i did and weighed less so you tell me why his car was so slow . It was his gearing makes all the difference in the world. I can remember 8 years ago when all the turbo guys wanted ls tranys and was ahving trouble running tens (steven evans ) with 600hp. Now guys are running 10s (jonathan monopar) with 450hp WITH A B16 TRANNY. Gearing is everything buy a six speed or lower diff and realy see what your car doing. You make 30 more hp you should be able to give him his sweet spot and come around him . Im sure with his 2.0 bottom end that he is reeving the piss out it wich is lengthening his sort gears while you have a longer geared tranny and a 2.4 bottom end so im sure your not making power as high as he is . I could be wrong about that statement but i doubt it . Id like to see his dyno chart and im sure with a smaller stroke he is making peak hp about 500rpms higher then you are . If i can tell all this by reading the little shit on here and watching a video then maybe i know what im talking about just maybe.

    Moseley's K20 "239hp"(OLD DYNO): No clue of his new setup..:idb:
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