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    no, i think you are wrong.

    all of the small blocks are referred to as WINDSORS.

    The only one that gets the "W" after it is the 351W.
    because it must be differentiated from the "351C".

    Because of the all of the Ford engines, it is the only engine that was built in both small and large block configuration.

    as you know 351w is a small block and the 351C or "cleveland" is a big block.

    People that do not know fords?

    HA

    You do not know me, so dont make comments about my knowledge of "Fords"
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    If you are still confused here is a link to discussion of
    "The ford windsor engine family"

    http://www.network54.com/Forum/119417

    as far as " engines that were produced at the windsor ontario plant"

    that plant is still in operation, and currently builds 4.6 and 5.4 engines..

    also still in operation is the Romeo plant, located in Romeo Michigan.
    that plant was opened in 1973 and currently builds 4.6 and 5.4 engines, including the 3v, 4.6 for the 05 mustang gt, and the supercharged 5.4 for the Ford GT.



    i would rather talk about your turbo 351, than give a Ford History lesson.
    so whats up, what combination? what vehicle is it going into?
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    trust me man if you were in ford circles no one calls a 260,289,and 302 a windsor. I don't care how many forums you show me. If someone says i have a windsor in my car its usually a 351W.

    A 351 cleveland is NOT a big block. The only big blocks ford made are the 429 and 460. A cleveland and a windsor are the same cubic inches but are different. Maybe since you are ford expert you can tell me the difference between them?

    yes,they discontined the 351w a while back when they switched over to the modular engines. The name 351 windsor was due to the Windsor plant building the engine vs the 351 cleveleand which was build at the Cleveland,OH plant.

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    so you are wrong, about the "windsor" engine family.
    period.

    The Ford windsor family consists of ALL 90 DEGREE ford small block v8 engines.



    and the 351C is NOT a 90 degree "small block Ford"



    what is it?

    a 351w is basically a tall deck 302 block, and a longer stroke.

    The 351c is TOTALLY different.

    Not a small block ford.
    Yes it is a big small block.

    Its a member of the 335 engine family. the members are 351C, 351M and 400.

    but again..

    can we talk

    LESS about ford engine history and engine families?

    and MORE about racing?

    this pretty much seems pointless... the supercharged 5.0 appearantly thinks a stock z06 IS too much.

    and your a ard because you wont talk abotu your car..

    so this thread is appraoching totally pointless
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    i'll be looking to run some blown zo6s when my car is done...stock zo6 is a waste of my gas.. It would have been a good run with my car all motor though. It trapped about the same as a stock zo6 would....115 mph or so.

    What i'm talking above is all semantics. Yes you can call the 260-351 the windsor family but when i was saying i have a windsor i was referring to the 351w. Also the 351w shares the same bore as the 302 which is 4.0 inches. The stroke is 3.5 inch vs 3.0 and the block is 1.3 inches taller then a 302 is.
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    in the form of a jeopardy question:

    answer: 115 mph
    what is a 14 second supra?



    115 means nothing.

    i have blistered cars with 10 + more mph trap speeds than 115.

    I want to race.... and you are declining....

    hmm.. bowing down to an opponent..

    sounds liek a forfeit to me.

    anyone else? wana step up?

    dotn underestimate yourself windsor.. your a tremendous slouch.,

    and you dotn know as much about fords as you think you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lemansz
    in the form of a jeopardy question:

    answer: 115 mph
    what is a 14 second supra?



    115 means nothing.

    i have blistered cars with 10 + more mph trap speeds than 115.

    I want to race.... and you are declining....

    hmm.. bowing down to an opponent..

    sounds liek a forfeit to me.

    anyone else? wana step up?

    dotn underestimate yourself windsor.. your a tremendous slouch.,

    and you dotn know as much about fords as you think you do.
    lmao...you are too funny man...no i ran much faster then 14s...try high 11s naturally aspirated...I don't have a supra. I'll let you know when my car is running and you can come get some with your zo6. I hope you aren't one of the guys who run up at commerce who turn 13s in their zo6s.

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