450whp evo vs 240sx AGAIN

[Nyteryder]

jeremy i give you that first race it was a good one but you said the first race you beat me by two cars the new video showed you beat me by 1/2 car and we still have another race to run, this one from a dead stop, also we ran from 25mph roll on the second race because thats what you wanted and it was cool i could hear you 240 spooling at 25 mph, but that is part of your power band right, okay i wasnt boosting until 4000 rpm and if it showed the beginning of the video you actually was about a good car ahead of me but I started hitting my powerband and was sucking you in. Next we should run from forty but you wont because you know i will be boosting, and you need to stop beating around the bush and lets run from a dead stop. but if you look good you can see what i am saying you do have a quick car from low end but, i let you get 25 mph roll now or second race we didnt get to run but we will run when you get your car fixed. what ended up coming out as the problem. Also me and hugo had two good runs, the first race i missed second gear that where that gap came from thats why we ran again, i have talked to hugo so he might be out tonight, i hope so. second run was a good one we where neck to neck until he hit six gear i need a damn MR. But J get your car fixed you still got one more run to run this time we will both be boosting.

I have never heard so many excusses from one person ever. First I did beat you by two cars and you can look at the pic at the bottom of the page to prove it, and so there is no confusion. If your front bumper is at my rear, that equals 1 car, if there is a gap between my back bumper and your front bumper that equals 1car plus that gap.I hope I made that simple enough for you. On a side note if you watch both videos, the second one show you closer than the first vid. and the first vid is closer to the end of the race which proves that I was still pulling on u. And for the record, I would rather race u from a 40 mph because my car pulls better on the hwy. In fact I know I would pull u by 3 cars.

Why do u say i am scared to run u from a dig and I already did and beat u, and then I beat u from a roll. What else do u want. You have a pattern of lying and and making BS excusses.When I beat u from a dig u say u bogged, I beat you from a roll and I was in my power band and was spolling to low in rpms. When i race u from a 40mph roll than you will say" NO FAIR YOU WERE BRAKE BOOSTING", it never stops with u. Now you want to call me out for money that u should clearly be spending on a nitrous kit and some driving lessons.

On your defense, if I spent the kind of money u did on the car and your numerous setups with that car I would not want to lose to a bunch of cars not making the same power, especially a 300whp 240 anyway we get lined up. I tell you what, since you seem so eager to get your pride back to a level that fits your ego, I will think about letting u get another run back, I just dont know why you would be in such a hurry to lose.

[phongie19]

enough said.......

[Nyteryder]

well it not claiming j you ran from your powerband you probably wouldnt have tried to run the second race because you know the outcome, you would have lost from a dead start, because i will be boosting 10-12 psi off the line, dont get happy run from a forty mph roll, and then see what happens i'll be boosting you only ran from 25 because you knew you would be boosting and that cool and if it was a quater mile track you would have lost because you were getting sucked back in if you looked at the video, so since you think your car is so fast run dead stop for a grand I got the money put that where your mouth is. Any one spit my girls named out they mouth again will get f up, i dont play about my girl.take that a grand put it up or shut up.

I dont know why you think a 1/4 mile track is goingto be any different. We ran longer than 1/4 when we raced because I was doing over 120mph and I trap 116 at the track. I believe you are finally running out of excusses

[Speedm0(\)key]

the car hasnt even been dynoed on race gas, that in another month, because i had not drove the car for six months, because some dumb as lady hit me, so when the fuck face from boost solutions fucked my car up, it had to go to battlegrounds, dan tuned it rich and safe, when he tunes it again it will be on race gas and i am hopping about 26-27psi.and then i will hook my bottle back up to so i wont have any lag.So it hasnt even touched race gas yet.if it was on race gas who would be in the camera besides me.

so.. its 450 on pump gas?... i mean no offense here, but say 450 was on race gas.. that'll put you around 350 pump gas, and your evo has been performing like a 350hp evo.

[1000cckiller]

so.. its 450 on pump gas?... i mean no offense here, but say 450 was on race gas.. that'll put you around 350 pump gas, and your evo has been performing like a 350hp evo.

well first for you speedmonkey(will)you talking about performing like a 350whp evo moe knows how fast the car is like i said i have substantial lag you can ask anyone who has rode in my car you buddy jeremy always wants to run from a roll but runs like a bitch everytime we say dead stop, he alwasys has some excuse about ltes run from a roll,ask moe about the lag when me and him use to run he would get the jump and then i would reel him in from a roll on the expressway
You can ask shane how it runs bet him and he was driving susans car with a litle race gas. But will you know you always have something to say when you jump in everyones else shit to get beat by a rsx-s, and you driving a 350

[1000cckiller]

I have never heard so many excusses from one person ever. First I did beat you by two cars and you can look at the pic at the bottom of the page to prove it, and so there is no confusion. If your front bumper is at my rear, that equals 1 car, if there is a gap between my back bumper and your front bumper that equals 1car plus that gap.I hope I made that simple enough for you. On a side note if you watch both videos, the second one show you closer than the first vid. and the first vid is closer to the end of the race which proves that I was still pulling on u. And for the record, I would rather race u from a 40 mph because my car pulls better on the hwy. In fact I know I would pull u by 3 cars.

Why do u say i am scared to run u from a dig and I already did and beat u, and then I beat u from a roll. What else do u want. You have a pattern of lying and and making BS excusses.When I beat u from a dig u say u bogged, I beat you from a roll and I was in my power band and was spolling to low in rpms. When i race u from a 40mph roll than you will say" NO FAIR YOU WERE BRAKE BOOSTING", it never stops with u. Now you want to call me out for money that u should clearly be spending on a nitrous kit and some driving lessons.

On your defense, if I spent the kind of money u did on the car and your numerous setups with that car I would not want to lose to a bunch of cars not making the same power, especially a 300whp 240 anyway we get lined up. I tell you what, since you seem so eager to get your pride back to a level that fits your ego, I will think about letting u get another run back, I just dont know why you would be in such a hurry to lose.

But now jeremy that bullshit excuse for your car breaking your dipstick, I know you let one of your boys tune you car you maxed you motor out to try to run me and you didnt run the same as you did the first time with you fuel upgrades or whatever chips you bought for you car before we raced the second time, remember you said one your way to stock bridge you pulled one of madavis lexus but you dipstick didnt come up then why all of a sudden.

But you like to be a computer caker and run to the computer like you dont have a live and be like i won a race that was suppose to be two and fucked you car up,And look at that picture maybe a car and a half not two, and also if anyone was really watching they would have saw you was getting reeled in run from a dead stop j you know you have no cahnce, you know it as well as the people that have seen me launch the car, LIKE I SAID SHOW YA ASS TO THE TRACK WITH A GRAND AND WE CAN RUN A REAL RACE BUT REMEMBER THE FIRST POST I MADE ABOUT A DEAD STOP YOU GONE COMPLAIN BECAUSE I AM AWD, BUT OH I FORGOT YOU NEED A NEW MOTOR WELL COME TO THE TRACK AND AFTER I BEAT YOU FROM THE LIGHT I DONATE THAT GRAND TO FIX YOU CAR, OR YOU CAN HOOKMYOUR 240 TO A TOW TRUCK, LINE UP AT THE LIGHT AND I'LL LET YOU WIN AND LET YOU KEEP THE MONEY TO FIX YOUR CAR.

[SpooL'DGsR]

DAMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[Nyteryder]

well first for you speedmonkey(will)you talking about performing like a 350whp evo moe knows how fast the car is like i said i have substantial lag you can ask anyone who has rode in my car you buddy jeremy always wants to run from a roll but runs like a bitch everytime we say dead stop, he alwasys has some excuse about ltes run from a roll,ask moe about the lag when me and him use to run he would get the jump and then i would reel him in from a roll on the expressway
You can ask shane how it runs bet him and he was driving susans car with a litle race gas. But will you know you always have something to say when you jump in everyones else shit to get beat by a rsx-s, and you driving a 350

Fuck all that other shit you are talking because I have already proven myself to you and your little fans. We are gonna put this car shit on pause for a minute...... Tell me you aint trying to call me a BITCH. Once that is cleared up, I will comment on the other BS.

[DrivenMind]

oh shit

[Speedm0(\)key]

well first for you speedmonkey(will)you talking about performing like a 350whp evo moe knows how fast the car is like i said i have substantial lag you can ask anyone who has rode in my car you buddy jeremy always wants to run from a roll but runs like a bitch everytime we say dead stop, he alwasys has some excuse about ltes run from a roll,ask moe about the lag when me and him use to run he would get the jump and then i would reel him in from a roll on the expressway
You can ask shane how it runs bet him and he was driving susans car with a litle race gas. But will you know you always have something to say when you jump in everyones else shit to get beat by a rsx-s, and you driving a 350

i must be so stoned.. that i cant remember losing to a RSX haha.
im not starting things, im also not jumping on this to put you down or anything, you seem to be a doing a fine job yourself. your Turbo setup should be good for more than 450whp, im just saying go to batlground and give them hell, cause there is no way you are making that on pump gas. i would say that if you were making 400+ you would reel in and pass alot of the cars you have been losing to. like susan's car.. for example.. its a quick 350z.. but i know for a fact josh's Z was faster than susan's car (ran 12.8-12.9's at commerce on street tires with shitty 60's), the 301whp STi (from a roll even) ran neck to neck with that car from a 40-120mph roll, after 125 the Z would own hard. is my STi faster than your car?.. i would say it'd be a close run. why?.. because your car isnt making 450whp. end of story.

have you talked to batlground about this?. something is wrong, your car used to be alot faster before they fucked with it.

[phongie19]

enough said.............
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[WINDSOR]

ha,i saw the silver EVO run at IFO this past sunday. If that car has a bigger then stock turbo on it i'd be pretty dissapointed. I've seen stock turbo EVOs run 116-117 mph traps and this one was much much slower...i hope it was having some issues or something.

[Nyteryder]

what were his times

[Vuongy_Dong]

all i got to say is, Jeremy won that race. His car is fast.

[WINDSOR]

what were his times

The ones i saw were a 12.9@107 and [email protected] might have gone faster but those are the 2 i saw.

[AnclyT]

this is funny stuff..


jeremy would be rich if he had raced the EVO for a Grand all those times

[DrivenMind]

The ones i saw were a 12.9@107 and [email protected] might have gone faster but those are the 2 i saw.

This is all we need to see? With the AWD advantage on the launch AT the track he ran the same time as Jeremy did on shitty tires. Jeremy did you not run a 12.9 at the track just recently? If the Evo ran a 12.9 with his launch advantage would it not signify that Jermey's car is faster?

[Speedm0(\)key]

13.01 @ 108.2 with a 1.8 60' was what my STi ran at commerce, craaaaaazy
i've yet to see what id run with 1.5 60's

[bambooi]

13.01 @ 108.2 with a 1.8 60' was what my STi ran at commerce, craaaaaazy
i've yet to see what id run with 1.5 60's

When did you run the sti?

[Nyteryder]

This is all we need to see? With the AWD advantage on the launch AT the track he ran the same time as Jeremy did on shitty tires. Jeremy did you not run a 12.9 at the track just recently? If the Evo ran a 12.9 with his launch advantage would it not signify that Jermey's car is faster?

Yes I did run a 12.9 at the track recently on shitty tires but I am trapping 115-116mph on every run about 8mph faster than him. And yes I would agree with you that my car is faster.

[tony]

Yes I did run a 12.9 at the track recently on shitty tires but I am trapping 115-116mph on every run about 8mph faster than him. And yes I would agree with you that my car is faster.

when will you have the 240 out again?

[Nyteryder]

The car should be running right before the new year. I have a few new toys I am trying to throw on. When are u gonna get started on your 240.

[Nyteryder]

This is all we need to see? With the AWD advantage on the launch AT the track he ran the same time as Jeremy did on shitty tires. Jeremy did you not run a 12.9 at the track just recently? If the Evo ran a 12.9 with his launch advantage would it not signify that Jermey's car is faster?

Wait a minute, he ran a 12.9 because "HE BOGGED." He would have ran a 6.5 at 13453mph if he used his 2step and launched good.



TRUE STORY!!!! HA HA!

[tony]

Once my G is sold I'll start on my 240, if it doesnt sell soon though I'll probably keep it and turn up the boost.

[Speedm0(\)key]

Once my G is sold I'll start on my 240, if it doesnt sell soon though I'll probably keep it and turn up the boost.

build... and + boost.. hehe

[EJ25RUN]

Once my G is sold I'll start on my 240, if it doesnt sell soon though I'll probably keep it and turn up the boost.

yeah, you should really build on your g, the amount of tricks and things with 240s is getting old.

but vq tuning is still needing to go much further, you should really try to get your vq to the 500hp peak i have yet to see.

i really think your g35 should be kept and built up further, i read the sleaves are very thin in the vq,

you should get better sleaves. then you might be able to boost at levels as high as 20 psi 25 psi or more and with that you will probably brake the 550hp - 600hp peak.

that will be an awsome g35 and vq (magazine cover time)

[tony]

Thanks, I'm seriously considering it. There are a few people hitting around 570whp with forged internals, the shop that would do my build is pushing 621whp on their Z with basically forged rods and pistons. If I did it I'd probably just shoot for 550whp and be happy with that. The VQ is relatively new so everything is still day to day, just last week someone anounced they are pushing 550whp on the stock engine and its still running strong with a good tune.

[EJ25RUN]

which shop did the 621whp? please not Z1

is that on race gas?

How much boost is on that setup?

boost on the 550hp set up you want?

[tony]

Nah Z1... I wont even comment but the shop is CP Race in Charlotte, NC. www.cprace.com. The Z did 621whp/604trq at 16.5psi of boost pressure with 100 octane fuel, on pump I believe he puts down around 569whp.

[tony]

heres his post about it on 350zmotoring.com

It was another late night tuning session last night for CP Racing/FI.com last night. Special thanks to Will (UnderPressure) from DynoDynamics for letting me borrow his dyno, as another car was parked on the shop dyno....and nobody felt like unstrapping it.

So Eric and I made about 30 passes on the dyno, dialing in the car for maximum power. The two man tuning arrangement really speeds up the tuning process. One person operates the dyno, and the other person operates the tuning software...both provide feedback...its perfect. Part throttle and lower boost were already dialed in during previous sessions. At times I feel like this car just lives on the dyno, as it's been subjected to over 200 various pulls on the Dyno Dynamics load based dyno.

From previous tuning sessions, and tuning Gman's car, the VQ with a free flowing exhuast can make about 550whp on pump gas at 12-13psi of boost pressure with a good safe tune. On my car, we've made 573whp on pump gas at 14psi of boost pressure.

But tonight was going to be special...no more games...no more experimenting with the limits of 93 octane fuel. So we increased the fuel pressure to 60 psi of differential pressure (vaccum line disconnected), then reconnected the vaccum line. We then proceeded to add a few gallons of C116 race fuel, for a net octane of about 100 (r+m/2) as the tank was roughly 1/3 full prior to introducing the race fuel. With some final EU tweaking, we were ready to make the pass.

The net result was 621whp/604trq at 16.5psi of boost pressure and 100 octane fuel.

Summary of engine modifications:
1) Arias 9.0:1 Pistons
2) Pauter ORds
3) JWT Cams/springs
4) Mildly Ported Heads
5) ATS Twin Disc Carbon (finally started slipping at these power levels...time for a triple or a heavier preassure plate)
6) AAM Spec Return Fuel System and Walbro 255
7) 550cc injectors (pushed beyond their limits....need to upgrade to 650cc)
8) 100 octane fuel
9) 16.5psi Boost Pressure
10) Greddy TT kit
11) eManage Ultimate ECU


After dyno tuning, we gave the car a thorough flogging on the street, monitoring all of the engine vitals. 3rd gear, 4th gear, and 5th gear pulls were all very impressive. 130mph comes up so quickly, and the car losses traction until about 95mph or so. Just nutty! Coolant temps never exceeded 205F and usually hovered in the 190-195 range.

One problem we encountered was an erratic boost controller...making it nearly impossible to dial in a perfect AF ratio....very close....but I think its time for an HKS EVC boost controller. It has a dedicated CPU for the stepper motor, and is extremely responsive and more stable than a traditional solenoid style boost controller.

[HiPSI]

Wait a minute, he ran a 12.9 because "HE BOGGED." He would have ran a 6.5 at 13453mph if he used his 2step and launched good.



TRUE STORY!!!! HA HA!

there was probably a deer on the track too, so he had to slow down to avoid it.

[Vuongy_Dong]

there was probably a deer on the track too, so he had to slow down to avoid it.

lol.

[EJ25RUN]

heres his post about it on 350zmotoring.com

Quote
"From previous tuning sessions, and tuning Gman's car, the VQ with a free flowing exhuast can make about 550whp on pump gas at 12-13psi of boost pressure with a good safe tune."

So judging by this, i guessing 12-13 is the treshhold on stock compression and internals.

And the head was ported so their z was boosting higher than 16.5 psi.

[EJ25RUN]

quote
"So we increased the fuel pressure to 60 psi of differential pressure (vaccum line disconnected), then reconnected the vaccum line."

what's differential pressure?

i mean, isn't this still the add 1 psi of fuel for every psi of air principle?

[tony]

Quote
"From previous tuning sessions, and tuning Gman's car, the VQ with a free flowing exhuast can make about 550whp on pump gas at 12-13psi of boost pressure with a good safe tune."

So judging by this, i guessing 12-13 is the treshhold on stock compression and internals.

And the head was ported so their z was boosting higher than 16.5 psi.

Nah the guy he's talking about has a built motor and a 9.1 compression ratio I believe. Stock can handle about 12-13psi though from what I've seen. The rest of it you would have to ask him, he's a true expert while I'm still learning myself

[EJ25RUN]

Hope to see the G, if you go ahead with that build.

[Nyteryder]

there was probably a deer on the track too, so he had to slow down to avoid it.

He told me he came to a complete stop to let to deer pass, set up his 2 step again, bogged again, and still made a 6sec. pass.

[Speedm0(\)key]

He told me he came to a complete stop to let to deer pass, set up his 2 step again, bogged again, and still made a 6sec. pass.

damn lol