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    Quote Originally Posted by Tank
    not knocking all motor but im at a lost on why to do it i thought about it but i could figure out why to do it so i went turbo can someone tell me the advantages and disadvantages to it say your 230whp crx vs a 600 hp civic coupe not knocking on anything but im lost when it comes to it just looking for some education on it
    you will never understand why these allmotor guys like it,i've tried for years and it just doesn't make any sense..i like to go as fast as possible with my cars,hell why do you think thay sell turbos,nitrous,superchargers,its to make your cars fast.why would anyone dump a shit pile of cash building a allmotor car when i can do a stock swap and spend 500 bucks on a nos kit and wax that ass?the whole object of racing is winning.at what point does one say hay...lets build the living fuck out of a motor that isn't very streetable and turn some 12's.then get beat by some kid with a 50 shot on his front drive hatch???????so let them keep spending money and knocking power adders and we'll just keep beating them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by punkr6
    you will never understand why these allmotor guys like it,i've tried for years and it just doesn't make any sense..i like to go as fast as possible with my cars,hell why do you think thay sell turbos,nitrous,superchargers,its to make your cars fast.why would anyone dump a shit pile of cash building a allmotor car when i can do a stock swap and spend 500 bucks on a nos kit and wax that ass?the whole object of racing is winning.at what point does one say hay...lets build the living fuck out of a motor that isn't very streetable and turn some 12's.then get beat by some kid with a 50 shot on his front drive hatch???????so let them keep spending money and knocking power adders and we'll just keep beating them.

    Very well put. +1billion


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    Quote Originally Posted by punkr6
    you will never understand why these allmotor guys like it,i've tried for years and it just doesn't make any sense..i like to go as fast as possible with my cars,hell why do you think thay sell turbos,nitrous,superchargers,its to make your cars fast.why would anyone dump a shit pile of cash building a allmotor car when i can do a stock swap and spend 500 bucks on a nos kit and wax that ass?the whole object of racing is winning.at what point does one say hay...lets build the living fuck out of a motor that isn't very streetable and turn some 12's.then get beat by some kid with a 50 shot on his front drive hatch???????so let them keep spending money and knocking power adders and we'll just keep beating them.
    really, thats why you have NO IDEA what you are talking about, and spoken by someone that has NEVER HAD A FAST ALL MOTOR CAR.

    I NEVER LOST to ANYONE FI HONDA in my old NA CRX. Only car i ever lost to was a camaro SS from a dig, and Hugo S4 from a DIG. Ask your buddy shane how he declined to race me at camp creek with his NOSed out b20integra.

    I beat TONS of turbo civics, integras, K series, Sr20s, SRT4's,Evos and lots of others. ask around, i have plenty of witnesses on this site and IL.

    just cause you cant build a fast all motor car, doesnt mean you have to hate on it. Adding nitrous or PSI is easy, building and all motor car takes SKILL. something alot of people dont have in GA.

    Just be patient, there is another CRX all motor coming out SOON, we will see what you have to say then
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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckidd
    really, thats why you have NO IDEA what you are talking about, and spoken by someone that has NEVER HAD A FAST ALL MOTOR CAR.

    I NEVER LOST to ANYONE FI HONDA in my old NA CRX. Only car i ever lost to was a camaro SS from a dig, and Hugo S4 from a DIG. Ask your buddy shane how he declined to race me at camp creek with his NOSed out b20integra.

    I beat TONS of turbo civics, integras, K series, Sr20s, SRT4's,Evos and lots of others. ask around, i have plenty of witnesses on this site and IL.

    just cause you cant build a fast all motor car, doesnt mean you have to hate on it. Adding nitrous or PSI is easy, building and all motor car takes SKILL. something alot of people dont have in GA.

    Just be patient, there is another CRX all motor coming out SOON, we will see what you have to say then
    Hell I would have killed hugos car, BAD but I let out cause I didnt want to win hell i jumped out 3 cars from the start then slammed on the brakes and you dont have any money so all you wanted to race for was 20 dollars come on get real, I have owned way faster cars then you have diven so get off your high horse, I told ya come with more money and your feelings would be hurt.

    Plain and simple your garbage crx went a high 13 low 14 thats slow you might as well have you some neons on your car.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jackdaripper
    Hell I would have killed hugos car, BAD but I let out cause I didnt want to win hell i jumped out 3 cars from the start then slammed on the brakes and you dont have any money so all you wanted to race for was 20 dollars come on get real, I have owned way faster cars then you have diven so get off your high horse, I told ya come with more money and your feelings would be hurt.

    Plain and simple your garbage crx went a high 13 low 14 thats slow you might as well have you some neons on your car.
    then why did YOU BACK DOWN when i asked you to race, and why did you get beat by HUGO.

    then, why did you declined to race HUGO again, it was never about money, i asked you to race and you said

    Quote Originally Posted by jackdaripper
    "i just saw you beat the S4, i cant race you there is no point cause i lost to the S4"
    so now its cause i had no money, lol. if my old garbage crx was so slow, then why wouldnt you race it?

    i never said it was fast, but neither was your old integra on the motor

    you cant say you were sandbagging it to win more moeny or whatever thats fine. i really dont care anymore. you talk like im a ricer, you just used the BIGGEST RICER EXCUSE EVER
    Quote Originally Posted by jackdaripper
    "Hell I would have killed hugos car, BAD but I let out cause I didnt want to win hell i jumped
    you didnt want to win? wtf is that about lol, is that waht you say to everyone. hold on ill get hugo on here
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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckidd
    Adding nitrous or PSI is easy, building and all motor car takes SKILL. something alot of people dont have in GA.
    Who cares about skill? I'd rather take the easy route to make power. Why the hell would people want to go a difficult route to make power? In the end, all that matters is who is faster/track times...
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    Quote Originally Posted by bambooi
    Who cares about skill? I'd rather take the easy route to make power. Why the hell would people want to go a difficult route to make power? In the end, all that matters is who is faster/track times...
    LOL you want to debate all mtor vs Turbo now ?

    how many 240whp Turbo cars do you know that run 11s? i can name 3 all motor cars right now.

    how many 270-280whp Turbo Cars run 10s, i know 4 cars right now.

    NA vs Turbo on the street, NA ALL DAY LONG. give me a 200-220whp light chassis vs a 400-500whp turbo car, and ill put money on the NA car all day long.

    see, think about traction, turbo lag, etc.

    I prefer NA, somepeopel dont, and dont act liek it costs less oney to go boost, it doesnt when your talking about high whp setups. you guys have not seen a REALLY FAST NA car out here yet, you will soon
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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckidd
    LOL you want to debate all mtor vs Turbo now ?

    how many 240whp Turbo cars do you know that run 11s? i can name 3 all motor cars right now.

    how many 270-280whp Turbo Cars run 10s, i know 4 cars right now.

    NA vs Turbo on the street, NA ALL DAY LONG. give me a 200-220whp light chassis vs a 400-500whp turbo car, and ill put money on the NA car all day long.

    see, think about traction, turbo lag, etc.

    I prefer NA, somepeopel dont, and dont act liek it costs less oney to go boost, it doesnt when your talking about high whp setups. you guys have not seen a REALLY FAST NA car out here yet, you will soon
    I agree with N/A over boost on the street all day long in a fwd no traction havin honda, but thats why I spray all the go with no lag, and I always go to the street prepared to race, most of these high horse power cars want to do it from a roll cause the "spin" I say fuck that when did a drag race turn into a 180mph run down the highway. Buy some good tire detune your car and have a fast car for the street of keep it at the track...

    Weight plays a bigger factor in going fast than power does anyhow but most dont understand this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckidd
    really, thats why you have NO IDEA what you are talking about, and spoken by someone that has NEVER HAD A FAST ALL MOTOR CAR.

    I NEVER LOST to ANYONE FI HONDA in my old NA CRX. Only car i ever lost to was a camaro SS from a dig, and Hugo S4 from a DIG. Ask your buddy shane how he declined to race me at camp creek with his NOSed out b20integra.

    I beat TONS of turbo civics, integras, K series, Sr20s, SRT4's,Evos and lots of others. ask around, i have plenty of witnesses on this site and IL.

    just cause you cant build a fast all motor car, doesnt mean you have to hate on it. Adding nitrous or PSI is easy, building and all motor car takes SKILL. something alot of people dont have in GA.

    Just be patient, there is another CRX all motor coming out SOON, we will see what you have to say then
    no,building a allmotor honda is stupid and very expensive,and to get it to run better than high 12's it wouldn't be very streetable,as far as you saying shane wouldn't race you is a fat lie.i was there in the car w/shane and you wouldn't race for any money....when your new car comes out and gets beat by a car w/nitrous all you will say then is __he had nitrous__ boohoo
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    Quote Originally Posted by punkr6
    no,building a allmotor honda is stupid and very expensive,and to get it to run better than high 12's it wouldn't be very streetable
    really , so my car isnt streetable, TBONEs car isnt streetable, Bees car wasnt streetable?

    come on man, just admit, there has not been a fast NA honda in GA. a fast car that comes out to the street races runs 14's. I proved it in my old car, never broke 13.8s, and i rarely lost. my car was not fast. im the first one to admit it.

    HOw many of your cars have withstood NOS as well, all of shanes cars either blew up or he sold, dont tell me im wrong cause i KNOW.

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    its about preference. i have beaten nitrous and turbo cars, so how am i stupid?
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    no offense, but those guys must not be the best drivers. i ran 11.50 in my full interior coupe that made 400 whp on pump gas. that was a 1.95 60' time.

    yea the type R had a 1.65 i think. something really good.

    another coupe (stripped though) .... howards brother .... ran 11.0 @ 131 w/ 400 whp w/ 1.8's

    another hatch ran 11.001 @ 132 with under 500whp.

    these are just charlotte cars i use for examples b/c i dont know many atl cars

    i was in the 11's on low boost. 11psi got me an 11.94 in the 1/4, when i was making only 310whp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supacharge
    no offense, but those guys must not be the best drivers. i ran 11.50 in my full interior coupe that made 400 whp on pump gas. that was a 1.95 60' time.

    yea the type R had a 1.65 i think. something really good.

    another coupe (stripped though) .... howards brother .... ran 11.0 @ 131 w/ 400 whp w/ 1.8's

    another hatch ran 11.001 @ 132 with under 500whp.

    these are just charlotte cars i use for examples b/c i dont know many atl cars

    i was in the 11's on low boost. 11psi got me an 11.94 in the 1/4, when i was making only 310whp
    im sure they are good drivers. im not not offended but before you say something like that you should try to run the track they run at.

    example... peter runs consistant 10.5 at commerce and with no change what so ever, the next morning he was at NDRA and ran 9.906@149mph twice. This was the exact same setup, the exact same way he drove, etc...

    what this means is that the track in NC is alot better... im pretty sure that if you ran at commerce of if your friends come down here and ran... they wont do as well...

    most guys that run good et times with lower hp are good drivers dont get me wrong....but, its also the track prep.

    if its right what im saying you should be running 12's at commerce. guess only way to tell is for you to run.... let me know how you do though... i'd like to know too.
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    oh yeah... turbo is best

    its just all in preference...

    if the all motor guys like to make the most out of just all motor let them.... mike likes all motor, he is making good power all motor.

    i like turbo im making decent numbers turbo charged... its all in preferences.... no need to talk down on others for what they like to do with their own money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supacharge
    no offense, but those guys must not be the best drivers. i ran 11.50 in my full interior coupe that made 400 whp on pump gas. that was a 1.95 60' time.

    yea the type R had a 1.65 i think. something really good.

    another coupe (stripped though) .... howards brother .... ran 11.0 @ 131 w/ 400 whp w/ 1.8's

    another hatch ran 11.001 @ 132 with under 500whp.

    these are just charlotte cars i use for examples b/c i dont know many atl cars

    i was in the 11's on low boost. 11psi got me an 11.94 in the 1/4, when i was making only 310whp
    What was your 60 foot on that 11.94? mph? sounds like BS to me with only 310 whp and a wrong wheel drive full weight SI. Most hatchbacks with that kind of power run mid to low 12s. I want to see some of these cars run in person. See if you can get them to come to commerce on the 18th.

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    vtec, just let me know. and on high boost and pump gas, which is how i run on the street, i made EXACTLY 400whp. i told my tuner to stop even if it says 400.00000001. haha, i didnt want to go higher ..... at that time. now, i want to race gas it and see what it does, but that will be some time. and yes, full interior. the only thing gone is A/C ... the turbo housing was too big. i still have cruise control and power steering.

    windsor ... the 60' time was 1.75 (first time ever on slicks) and they were crappy little 22" slicks mounted on 15" wheels. the time slip is in my homepage. the car makes alot of torque though, dont forget i have the LSVTEC motor, 84mm bore, which makes it a 2.0L, so 11.94 wasnt that difficult to achieve. if you need more proof, i'll gladly send you the video. it's my race compilation, which is around 28MB, and the low boost run is on there. i have nobody to host it, but i would LOVE to get it online.

    if you wanna see SOME of these cars run, go to ROCKINGHAM DRAGWAY this weekend. they will be running. as for me running, im working on getting slicks to fit. then i will run, try to hit some 11.3s at 130 if i can, on my current set up. 22" slicks kill top end and im shifting to 5th well b4 the 1/4 mile ends
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    Quote Originally Posted by vteckidd
    HOw many of your cars have withstood NOS as well, all of shanes cars either blew up or he sold, dont tell me im wrong cause i KNOW.

    B20integra-SOLD
    SEntra-Blew up
    EF hatch-BLEW UP (i was there the night it bent avalve)

    its about preference. i have beaten nitrous and turbo cars, so how am i stupid?
    I wrecked the Se-R dumb ass and The valve didnt bend the rocker arm came loose from the crower 404s I had on stock springs. I sold the integra cause I wasnt working and its hard to pay for a car and insurance when you have no job. You again stick your foot in your mouth, I parted my entire se-r out the next day. Hell most of it went to terrance with the red se-r. So dont go talking about shit you have no idea about. Untill you have a fast car shut the fuck up.


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