Callout: SRT4s, All your boost are belong to us your pull is none

**Kason23** · 10-22-2009, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by Lankhoss

Haven't read the thread, but I make between 480 - 500rwhp, and weigh just over 3100lbs.

One night I raced a Civic Hatch making about 360 - 370rwhp, and only weighed around 2000lbs.....couldn't pull him at all.

I also raced a GT 500 Mustang that was making just over 680rwhp, but also weighing right at 4000lbs, and was pretty much even with him until 120 - 130mph or so, where I started creeping away from him.

Power:Weight is probably the biggest factor that comes into play when going from a roll, but it's not the gospel. But you're typically going to need about 12rwhp ON AVERAGE to make up for every 100lbs of weight.

Oh snap Rear wheel civic FTW!!! lol

And im down smacked. Just let me know when and where. On my latest tune Im prob on the 430whp/500+wtq mark. But like you I need another dyno session to know for sure.

And im waiting for my clutch to say F*ck you. Since its only rated to 500 TQ to the FLYWHEEL lol

**oleblue** · 10-22-2009, 02:06 PM

^This might be good depending on how far you two go.

**[Reckless]** · 10-22-2009, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by oleblue

We all should just try and meet and we all can get some runs in all in the same night, that way we can have a hell of a video to show of.

I'm down for this.
Would be good to have some faces with some of these s/ns

**Kason23** · 10-22-2009, 03:10 PM

There used to be killsforum meets. But I think the spots got hot and they kinda wiltered away. And with work the way it is now I can only meet up on a weekend.

**ejohnson88** · 10-22-2009, 04:05 PM

Lol I just wanted clarification lank wasn't calling you out or anything :P but that's pretty surprising that it only takes 12 hp to make up for 100 lbs. thanks for the info!

**David88vert** · 10-22-2009, 04:29 PM

So a turbo car that weighs 3200#s only needs 320rwhp to run even with a 2200# racecar that has 200 rwhp N/A? Traction has nothing to do with it? Neither does the type of induction? Just asking. Never heard that 12hp = 100lbs.

**chunky** · 10-22-2009, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by David88vert

So a turbo car that weighs 3200#s only needs 320rwhp to run even with a 2200# racecar that has 200 rwhp N/A? Traction has nothing to do with it? Neither does the type of induction? Just asking. Never heard that 12hp = 100lbs.

Yeah, I'm not sure I agree with 12hp for every 100lb of weight difference. It has to depend on gearing and torque as well. It's known that cars that make significant torque are less sensitive to an increase in weight than a car with similar power/weight but less torque, especially from a roll.

Anyhow, I'm pretty sure that if you took a honda hatch that ran neck and neck with a camaro or mustang, and then you added 100lb to each car, the honda would be slower because it makes less torque and relies more on gearing + redline to get moving. Weight doesn't affect all setups to the same degree, so that 12hp = 100lb factor probably only works for particular scenarios.

**SmackedInATL** · 10-22-2009, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by Lankhoss

Yeah, that was the point of my post. I actually ran that GT 500 again, and he said all he'd done was take it back to the shop and had them retune it, and he pulled me by a car length consistantly....even though he had a passenger and slipping clutch. Maybe it just wasn't running at 100% for the longest time or something.

And yes, it's 12whp not 120....I think you may have been thinking what it'd take to overcome 1000lb disadvantage?

I love how you make one estimation and everyone just runs with it. LOL. You guys may not like Lank's posts but he knows what he's talking about when it comes to roll racing.

**ueyedgr8tness** · 10-22-2009, 06:21 PM

[quote=Lankhoss;38430729]Haven't read the thread, but I make between 480 - 500rwhp, and weigh just over 3100lbs.

One night I raced a Civic Hatch making about 360 - 370rwhp, and only weighed around 2000lbs.....couldn't pull him at all.

Lank if that was the green hatch u were talking about it weighed alot more than u would think

**oleblue** · 10-22-2009, 08:05 PM

Well, is anything going down or what?

**SmackedInATL** · 10-22-2009, 08:19 PM

Hell nah, these boys playing games LOL. My car is going down next weekend. (just for the weekend)

**oleblue** · 10-22-2009, 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by SmackedInATL

Hell nah, these boys playing games LOL. My car is going down next weekend. (just for the weekend)

That's what I was thinking.

**oleblue** · 10-22-2009, 09:15 PM

I just watched a video on streetfire.net of the hatch and back then it say's the hatch was 305whp.

**SmackedInATL** · 10-22-2009, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by oleblue

I just watched a video on streetfire.net of the hatch and back then it say's the hatch was 305whp.

link please

**Moseley** · 10-22-2009, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by SmackedInATL

link please

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/j...130_178618.htm

that was an older setup... big torque numbers, tall gears and shitty camera work

I'd love to see this go down soon too.

**ejohnson88** · 10-23-2009, 08:12 AM

Lol if anything... these people are the ones who DON'T Play games... they're are some of the more intelligent and cool-headed people around these forums.

**oleblue** · 10-23-2009, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Moseley

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/j...130_178618.htm

that was an older setup... big torque numbers, tall gears and shitty camera work

I'd love to see this go down soon too.

Yea, me too.

**oleblue** · 10-23-2009, 08:42 AM

kason23 I tried to PM you but it say's your PM's are full.

**jadakid88** · 10-23-2009, 09:46 AM

i highly doubt it...

Originally Posted by TSiFTW

I think you may be biting off more than you can chew.

**ejohnson88** · 10-23-2009, 10:43 AM

Mose get Kizda to set this up this weekend ^_^

**Turbodude06** · 10-23-2009, 10:53 AM

:couch: Page 6.....

**Moseley** · 10-23-2009, 11:23 AM

Kason23's PM box is still full...

**Kason23** · 10-23-2009, 12:15 PM

Damn sorry guys im not used to only having 150... there clear now thanks.

**SmackedInATL** · 10-23-2009, 03:04 PM

Nice, this is about 90% locked in...

**Kason23** · 10-23-2009, 03:20 PM

Yep I just got my PM seems like we are doing this. Should be fun!

**oleblue** · 10-23-2009, 04:37 PM

Well then good luck....I wish I could come out too but already have plans to carry the kids to Disney on ice that evening.

**02SloWrx** · 10-23-2009, 11:51 PM

Who wants to put money down that this will just be another callout that never got to the street thread?

**SmackedInATL** · 10-24-2009, 12:23 AM

Originally Posted by 02SloWrx

Who wants to put money down that this will just be another callout that never got to the street thread?

I will bet you that this callout will make it to the street. Say $200?

**[Reckless]** · 10-24-2009, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by Kason23

There used to be killsforum meets. But I think the spots got hot and they kinda wiltered away. And with work the way it is now I can only meet up on a weekend.

I am in the same boat or have to leave where ever by 11am.
I guess I would have been around for the old meets but I took a 3yr hiatus out of the car scene and just got back into it.

**oleblue** · 10-24-2009, 09:23 PM

Any news yet?

**SmackedInATL** · 10-25-2009, 01:58 AM

Well some runs went down tonight, just none with the hatch...

**ejohnson88** · 10-25-2009, 02:01 AM

Yeah they were bummed about it

But yeah I was a little let down by that cobra

Guy was cool as hell though

Hope to see you guys around again some time!

**ejohnson88** · 10-25-2009, 02:01 AM

Oh... and we ran into a very interesting corrola on the way back haha!

**oleblue** · 10-25-2009, 09:12 AM

So who did get to run? And what was up with the hatch?

**SmackedInATL** · 10-25-2009, 09:25 AM

A Camaro SS with ported LS6 heads, Comp cam, 4.10s and DRs. Blew his doors off, he just bought the car that day though. Claimed to be 440rwhp but I say more around 415 rwhp but I don't know what my car makes but she was pulling hard.

Not sure what was wrong with the hatch, it was a Honda? Lol, joke. But something with the bottle pressue combined with it running very lean. Not worth blowing up a motor.

**oleblue** · 10-25-2009, 09:47 AM

Did kason23 get to run?

**SmackedInATL** · 10-25-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by oleblue

Did kason23 get to run?

No show.

**ejohnson88** · 10-25-2009, 10:57 AM

Ya their were bottle issues and stuff just not acting right... it was really weird... shit they'd never had problems with before... so they didn't want to risk it. Trust me though, that shit will bother him and he wont stop till he fixes it, maybe next weekend shit can be re done.

**SmackedInATL** · 10-25-2009, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by ejohnson88

Ya their were bottle issues and stuff just not acting right... it was really weird... shit they'd never had problems with before... so they didn't want to risk it. Trust me though, that shit will bother him and he wont stop till he fixes it, maybe next weekend shit can be re done.

Car will be down next weekend...got some stuff to fix.

**Moseley** · 10-25-2009, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by SmackedInATL

Not sure what was wrong with the hatch, it was a Honda? Lol, joke. But something with the bottle pressue combined with it running very lean. Not worth blowing up a motor.

Yeah the hatch had something up with the bottle pressure. It seems like it was spraying way too much juice, because it wasn't hooking up @ 60mph and was dangerously lean. tried to put a smaller jet in but it was still spinning and lean

Some of the other runs were fun though. I should be able to post them up this week. got a lot to do though because I'm moving.

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