No, you can't comprehend it. You think racing is all about 1 factor...horsepower.
You can't grasp the concept of the MULTITUDE of contributing factors to a drag race.
This, by definition, is ricer.
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horsepower doesn't get you from point a to point b....torque does...
at any rate, i don't see a problem handicapping a car if it's agreeable on both parties, sure vtec's car should run 12's, in a perfect situation....unfortunately ga rarely has perfect situations, so that argument is worthless, aaron went 11.7x on dr's i guess....this car is a solid mid 13 to high 12 car, which should be in aarons range on true street tire....why don't aaron just show up dr's and take the mans money?
I think smacked and I are good lankhoss keeps carrying on. Smacked declined my terms no big deal
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Less talk, more running. IMO, why not run him on street tires? Why is it so offensive to run a handicapped race? If running on streets isn't your style, then why don't you drop him a counter offer with a different sort of handicap? Spot him two car lengths. You don't have to worry so much about hooking, and it still makes for an interesting race.
Hey chunky thanks for your 2 cents but it's not necessary. A lot of mother fuckers on here worried about my car. You know Mike if you going to call out a faster car don't try to handicap it at the same time. I'm not handicapping my car for anyone. It's that simple. Run what you brung or don't call me out. If your shit ain't fast to run me on kill then get your ass back in the dugout because you don't need to be at the plate. I call out faster cars on other forums and run them heads up. I suggest you start doing the same. Every one of you fucking ricers who call me out try to put terms on the race. I don't run on terms. Heads up from a dig is all you are getting.
I mean seriously, why would I race someone from a dig on tires I can only use MAYBE 50% throttle on through 2 gears?? And for money?? Get the fuck out.
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And what's up with everyone trying to remember my 1/4 mile times. They are all over the place.
12.3@110 on stock pulley and slicks
11.77&118 on 2.8 pulley and slicks
All on IRS. New times on the stick axle coming on Sunday.
Bring enough cash and ill run on street tires!
I'm just saying.....If all you're offering is a $100 then keep that shit and buy you some more horsepowers son
Here for fun!
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this thread is FULL of WIN. i love it.
these fucking 200HP civics trying to call out real cars and wanting to handicap that shit is funny.
[QUOTE=SmackedInATL;38269623]Hey chunky thanks for your 2 cents but it's not necessary. A lot of mother fuckers on here worried about my car. You know Mike if you going to call out a faster car don't try to handicap it at the same time. I'm not handicapping my car for anyone. It's that simple. Run what you brung or don't call me out. If your shit ain't fast to run me on kill then get your ass back in the dugout because you don't need to be at the plate. I call out faster cars on other forums and run them heads up. I suggest you start doing the same. Every one of you fucking ricers who call me out try to put terms on the race. I don't run on terms. Heads up from a dig is all you are getting.
I mean seriously, why would I race someone from a dig on tires I can only use MAYBE 50% throttle on through 2 gears?? And for money?? Get the fuck out.[/QUOTE
Thats all you had to say the first time around.
How about you give me 1-2 cars and we both stay on Drag Radials?
we dont have to do it for money either if thats the problem.
I love how im trying to race faster cars and everyone is calling me a ricer and telling me to go build something faster. My car isnt a drag racing warrior, its a fun little street car. Thats it.
If yo uwant to work something out let me know, my reasons for handicapping you are because you make significantly more power and are RWD.
Like i said , what does your car run on STREEET TIRES, mine ran 14.1 on DRAG RADIALS.
Obviously you have a low low 12 high 11 second car on slicks/drag radials. Even my car on SLICKS is a 13 second car at best so you still are way faster.
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Well, here's my take. Mike just wants to run for fun. He thought money would make it worth your while to come run for fun. It's not a callout so much as a chance to meet & do some runs just for the hell of it.
I'm sure mike will run you from a dig, run what you brung, no money or just gas/tire money. You'll also blow him away. So why not follow up that run with a 2nd run with a little bit of a handicap?
Just run him and get it over with.
Chunky is right , i thought me calling out smacked str8 up wouldnt be worth his time, so i offered $100 with a handicap.
Obvioulsy that pissed a lot of you guys off, so ill just stick to my side of the sandbox.
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Vteckidd, quit acting like you're a poor victim that's been picked on here.
You made a completely retarded callout, and kept throwing all these ricer terms in like "This little Honda" and "Well he's got all that horsepower" and blah blah blah. Doing everything you could to downlplay your car as if it's something slower than a stock 2000 Mustang GT, and at the same time making it sound like Aaron has some monster of a car.
If you want to make a callout, then make a callout....but nobody wants to see your bullshit about how much of an underdog you are and how Smacked needs to cripple his car because he's too big and bad for you to handle in your "little 'ol 4 cylinder."
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By the way Smacked, my rear tires are almost bald and it's tradition (ok I've only done it once heh) for me to burn the last bit of those fuckers off with some standing burnouts at a drag strip. With what happened last time I ran at the track, I said I'd never go again....but I may make an exception when I get ready to get new tires, plus I'd like to see if I can launch better with the solid tranny mounts. I run mid - high 11's on street tires, so we may be a good run at the track.
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case of the internet commando i see.
You are obviously too dumb to comprehend what happens in street racing. You act like this is my first rodeo.
Can we agree that
A) his car makes AT LEAST 200whp/200TQ more than me
B) His car has an advantage from a dig being hes RWD (this is common sense RWD cars cut much better 60 fts than FWD on RADIALS).
C) Me running him straight up is a waste of his time, hes MUCH faster than i am, that has already been proven he runs 11s, i run 14s.
I thought the lure of him making $100 with a MINOR handicap would be suitable for him, it wasnt , so fucking what.
Move on. He called me a ricer for trying to race. Isnt that what the fucking killsforum is about? RACING?
Excuse me for trying to setup a somewhat fair run. All you guys can do is bitch and make excuses. I was trying to setup an equal run.
Is $100 REALLY that big of a deal?
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I don't get it......
You type up all this shit, but then STILL call him out? Why?
The more you type, the more it shows how stupid you are for even doing the callout in the first place.
Maybe I should callout Clark? I just need to figure out all the crap he needs to do to slow his car down so I can beat him.....then offer to make it for money, as long as he agrees to run his car in a situation where he can only get about 30% of the capability out of it.
You're not trying to setup a fair run, his car is useless on street tires. You also aren't going to convince me, or anyone else with a functional brain, that your 200whp low 2000lb car can only run high 13's@100mph on slicks.
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If he is only around 200whp, even with the handicap I think smacked would still beat him. That's just my opinion though.
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Lankhoss i get what you are saying, im not denying what you are posting. Sure it sucks to tell someone to handicap their car to race.
I guess the question is, how do i race Smacked
A) making it somewhat fair
B) Without making my car make 500whp
In my mind, tires is the easiest way to do that. I didnt really want to ask for 2 cars from the line
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I guess that's the difference between you and I, I'd just concede that it's a faster car and not bug him to do a silly race like that.
I've seen the tires he uses for normal driving, and I was also there one night when he tried to race (from a roll I believe) on them...and I KNOW they are completely useless.
I see your side of things, I just don't think it's really a "fair" thing to ask. If you were going from a roll, it would be different.....but from a dig, traction is absolutely vital. I think you are exagerrating the advantage he has from being RWD as well. I know RWD is a lot better than FWD, but the Terminators are not good at hooking from a stop. For one thing, EVERY Terminator you see has tires that are over 2" wider than stock. So if you are racing a Terminator with the stock rear wheels, he's completely fucked. Mustangs have pretty soft suspensions, as well as having a lot more front weight bias than say a Camaro does. They are iron blocks, DOHC (the heads are HUGE), plus they have the extra weight of the supercharger....that all makes the motor MUCH heavier than the aluminum small blocks that GM uses. On top of that, because of the supercharger, they have a LOT more torque than a N/A V8. So when you add all of this together, it makes for a pretty shitty platform to launch from.
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ill concede you know more about his car than i do.
Im really not an asshole, just looking to run some of the much faster cars.
I just think my car is really slow, and i dont think he would have any trouble. But then again, ive owned 3 RWD cars, only 1 made any power. All the rest were 250whp 240s at best.
I certainly didnt mean to offend anyone. just its in my nature to be competitive and try to run people that are a lot faster than i am just to kinda see where im at. But then again, i understand when you got guys making a lot more power , why should they handicap themselves and set themselves upfor a possible loss.
Oh well maybe he will give me a few cars, or maybe we can just run for fun
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I don't know you, but I do know there are a lot of pricks and ricers out there. There's a group of guys I typically hang out/race with, and we all have a good time together. One person with a shitty attitude can ruin that, so I'm a bit defensive about certain things....plus I'm not on a mission to go make new friends.
I don't know if you are legitimately uneducated about Mustangs, or if you are just playing dumb as a part of the "game" to talk someone into a race that you will win. More often that not, people just like to play dumb in an attempt to "innocently" drag someone into a race where they are at a disadvantage, usually doing so by playing down their own car.
You and I would probably get along just fine in person, but it's damn near impossible to pick up on someone's personality from online. Hell, I fucking hated Btstone until I met him, now I got that motherfucker's back anytime he's gotta show people about BOATROCK BITCHES! But from the way you were typing on the forums, it looked like you were trying this silly game that I see all too often. I'll be perfectly honest with you, I may just keep the same opinion of you until I meet you in person.
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my car will be coming home next weekend. i will sell you a few cars if you want
I was there the same night as mike @ commerce. All the stats say his car should be faster than the mid 14s @98mph it ran, but the fact of the matter is, he ran 14.x @ 98mph. That's the only time he's been to the track, but he's had a few CRXs before and knows what he's capable of driving a given car to.
Anyhow, his car is 200whp/22xxlb w/o driver, no nitrous, no tricks. There's nothing shady about his offer. I honestly think he wanted to get smacked out to run just to have some fun and have a chance to talk cars with someone that's got a car known to be fast.
How about mike runs smacked head to head, run what you brung no handicap, no money. Mike will run his car against a faster car, that's not a problem.
Bottom line is before this thread gets locked, they should work out the terms for a run. Aaron, you said go from a dig run what you bring. If Mike says ok, are you down to run?
I will make a comment about what he ran at the track. Maybe he did a 14.1@98mph, but that's not what the car is capable of. On the street, things happen quite a bit differently than at the track. If he was on any kind of street tire (even a drag radial), it's possible he will actually perform BETTER on the street. I can't hook for shit at the track, but seem fairly planted on the street. I know Smacked said he has a hard time getting really good grip on the streets with his slicks, even though they dead hook at the track. Of course, I usually roll race where traction and launch aren't a factor, and you see a closer resemblance to the full capability of the CAR than you do from a dig (where it's more the driver).
My guess is that Smacked would run the equivalent of a mid 12 AT BEST on the street...I'd also be willing to bet the CRX will do a little better on the street than he does at the track, if he's on drag radials (I'm not 100% on this, it's just a guess). I would also guess that going from slicks to normal street tires would literally cost Smacked about 1.5 seconds....and that's if he can actually feather the throttle well enough to have it hook.
Thing is, reducing someone's traction isn't a black/white cripple like say....not spraying NOS or using a pump gas tune over race gas. If someone is at the threshold of traction the whole race, they may use 1% too much throttle the whole time, and never grab traction and just spin and go nowhere. If they use 10% too little, then they'll hook better but be so ridiculously slow. When I was stock, I was racing my friend's Supra just for fun. He had about 630rwhp, over 150 more than I did (and with a FAR smaller gap in weight differences than Smacked and Vteckidd). We raced 4 times to very high speeds. Twice from a roll, twice from a dig. We went from a dig to 175mph. I beat him twice, and he beat me twice. I beat him from a dig one time, because he spun so bad and I got so far ahead, he couldn't even reel me in at 175mph. His car is MUCH faster than mine, but I still beat him because he didn't have tires on the car that night.
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vtec me and u might be ok of a run not sure.
I check sluts off my list like a maintnence man
I drive a low is3 just so it gives me a reason to drive super slow on these rough ga roads.
SO let me get this strait, Someone had the chance to make an easy $100 and turned it down, I mean if one car is so much faster than the other and everyone knows the stang will win. why not take his money? I mean fuck its hard times out there at and $100 extra is $100 more than individual already had. So what if you slip and slide a little bit you make $100 what is the problem?
Try not. Do or Do not.
The track is what it is. I was running at the track the same night and ran a little slower than mike with a higher trap speed. My car makes the power to run 12s on slicks or maybe DRs, but it doesn't mean shit until I actually go out and do it. In most cases, trophies aren't handed out based on potential, only based on what is actually done.
Mike did have DRs that night. We ran on the street, and I pulled on mike from a roll, but he was faster at the track, so the DRs definitely help him from a dig at the track. We also did dig pulls on the street and he got out of the hole better than I did, but it still wasn't anything crazy.
The bottom line is they should run. Mike will probably run him from a dig head to head if that's all he's willing to do - whatever it takes to get smacked to run him. Win or lose, mike is like me in that he doesn't really care, he just likes to get out & run people.
Mike can get his run in against me on the Southside one night...don't really matter to me what night as long as it is next week. I find it pretty strange he wants to run me so bad when there are plenty of cars on this site between him and I. But anyways, if he is really that anxious....
smacked sounds to me like you need to invest in some better street tires, instead of rubber brands. fuck throw some 335 555r's on there and call it a day, you will do just fine even with 480foot pounds! might spin a bit but not enough to change the outcome of a race!
I don't need any better street tires. I don't need DRs. Don't want DRs. I'm not running around the streets of Atlanta trying to race anything and everything. As I stated in an earlier post, I'll be laying off the street as the weather gets cooler and getting to the track on the weekends.
smacked wut tires were u on for the midnight cruse? cuz i was in the pass set of the camaro u ran and i never heard u spin. Im pretty sure yall did a 40ish roll and not one chirp from your car, just a loud ass clunk from that bushing u were talking bout.
just food for thought....