hah never b/c mustiman is a BSing queer.
hah never b/c mustiman is a BSing queer.
Dyno chart on both cars is pretty impressive. I mean I'm not on anybody's side BUT....
I am partial to the TEL's. Just because the first 100ft are gone real fast. Especially with four slicks.
I would surely like to see that dyno chart....and does that same car make 500whp on race gas....if it's the same turbo...that 395whp chart will look pretty sad, where did it make that 395whp (rpm)....and what's the torque. Like I've said...area under the curve. Let's see my z made all of its power before 6500 rpm, HP and Torque....where's yours? 8500rpm.....whats happening to left of that peak? Your peak peak numbers mean squat to me.Originally Posted by anothaRRR
The bottom line; since I no longer have my z, I won't bench race with you...think what you will, but I've put many turbo'd hondahs in their place out on the highway. When I get done with the S13, you'll be the first to be called out.....bring money
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I don't know who you think you are, but I wasn't talking to you, so why are you in my convo? Learn to comprehend, I shouldn't have to type everything out....but, if I have to explain to you what I was getting at about the honda on race gas, then pump gas, you obviously don't have a clue.you were just talkin mad shit about ppl using race gas? but now your saying your going to hand down some big L's, "should you put race gas in it" make up your mind... your talkin alot of trash to these honda guys that are putting down 10sec runs like its nothing. just calm down and let the 2 race nobody cares about your
Here, lemme help you out...simple as I can put it.....Imma use a turbo large enough to give me what I feel is the best of both worlds....a turbo that will make xxx HP on pump gas (with minimal lag, don't really care about the boost threshold), with enough reserve to make xxxHP on race fuel and the timing bumbed if I feel inclined. Got that?
I'm very calm, I'm cool people...I love to talk shit (it's fun to me)...but...I can also back it up
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simple question.....you mind telling me what you can do to that b18 that I can't do to an sr20?.....yeah, that's what I thought.
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back it up w/ what? a car you dont have finished? like i was saying your starting trash in a topic that has nothing to do w/ you...I'm very calm, I'm cool people...I love to talk shit (it's fun to me)...but...I can also back it up
well...if that's true, guess I may as well keep antagonizing the Honduh boyz and girlz...this thread is fun...I'm actualy learning something
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hmm, rev to 9000-10,000 rpm and have vtec?
bottom end balance, solid lifers, ras kit....S14 engines have vvtchmm, rev to 9000-10,000 rpm and have vtec?
try again
matter of fact....who needs vtec when you have a big turbo and big cams
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Z's are also heavy pigs compared to a hatchback honda, so he can still easily outrun one with 100 extra hp on tap because he's only having to move 2400lbs worth of car where the Z is over 1000lbs more. hell a stock zxtt runs nearly 4000lbs with a full tank and driver.
true...a stock tt weighs ~3500lbs.....but mine didn't
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its true that you must have a good power curve to be faster..... and its okay if the nissan or mitsubishi has better power to like 6000rpm or so...
remember that honda's are higher reving engines.... and the tranny is geared for where the rev would drop to.. which means the honda/acura engines rpm drops to 6000rpm.... and that is where most honda/acura makes power.. its about useable power...
if honda wanted better or more lowend im sure they would have built their motors differently.
94 Supra= 500rwhp
Ok here is my chime in since the 350Z was brought into this Mistu/Honda thread.
Being a owner of BOTH, (04 Z, 00 Hatch) I KNOW that the Z is not fastest nor the lightest. Even with running at 262 to the ground without spray, it is SLOW. Hell and to get through the gear tree is a bitch and time consumming.
Proof positive, screwing around yesterday with Paul (Admin) he with Julio in the 230ish whp VW hung tight with my Z and might have pulled if given the distance. The weight is what kills it, and hell I have 400-500 more pounds of ICE. Even with the car stripped down I would think it to be heavy. Maybe one day I will take it to commerence and drop the spray but that is for another day.
My Honda hatch is PERFECT stock at 34mpg and is one of the best beater cars I ahve ever owned, accually it is my 1st and I think it kicks ass, all 90 hp of it.
What sorta pisses me off and the reason for chiming in is that "run4cover" starts talking about this and that, what a B18 have that my SR20 dosen't
Dude no offence but zip it!
Get your new S14 built then talk smack. All your doing in my book is making the Nissan contengent look like shit. Granted you might be the best builder in the world and can spank the onslaught of cars who call you out, but what do you gain from saying I had this car and when I finish building the s14 watch out? Nothing.
My car can hold its own in the quater, but why waste the time talking about it. I would rather say, my shit is slow as monkey balls and surprise the folks at the track when spray can be used safely.
My
UPDATE: Thank you run4cover that last post brought you back under the good graces of the Nissan Gods. Well thought and not smartass. Kudos to you.
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very well said...and true. Glad someone undersands the concept....honda on homie!
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The only purple car I've ever seen that looked good is Mr. Purple Godzilla Trihn's. lol.
I hear ya, but ummmm...nobody ever mentioned a 350zOk here is my chime in since the 350Z was brought into this Mistu/Honda thread.
Being a owner of BOTH, (04 Z, 00 Hatch) I KNOW that the Z is not fastest nor the lightest. Even with running at 262 to the ground without spray, it is SLOW. Hell and to get through the gear tree is a bitch and time consumming.
Proof positive, screwing around yesterday with Paul (Admin) he with Julio in the 230ish whp VW hung tight with my Z and might have pulled if given the distance. The weight is what kills it, and hell I have 400-500 more pounds of ICE. Even with the car stripped down I would think it to be heavy. Maybe one day I will take it to commerence and drop the spray but that is for another day.
My Honda hatch is PERFECT stock at 34mpg and is one of the best beater cars I ahve ever owned, accually it is my 1st and I think it kicks ass, all 90 hp of it.
What sorta pisses me off and the reason for chiming in is that "run4cover" starts talking about this and that, what a B18 have that my SR20 dosen't
Dude no offence but zip it!
Get your new S14 built then talk smack. All your doing in my book is making the Nissan contengent look like shit. Granted you might be the best builder in the world and can spank the onslaught of cars who call you out, but what do you gain from saying I had this car and when I finish building the s14 watch out? Nothing.
My car can hold its own in the quater, but why waste the time talking about it. I would rather say, my shit is slow as monkey balls and surprise the folks at the track when spray can be used safely.
My
UPDATE: Thank you run4cover that last post brought you back under the good graces of the Nissan Gods. Well thought and not smartass. Kudos to you.......or an s14...well, not the car, just the engine....I have a raggedy ass s13 coupe. My reply about the sr20 vs. b18 was directed to some kid saying I just don't know whats comming...my point is, there's nothing he can do to that honda motor that I can't do to this nissan motor...it's all about the $$$$.
I followed most of what you said, but hear me on this....I DO NOT represent or speak on behalf of anyone other than myself. I've met more a$$holes in the nissan camp than anywhere else! I'm a privateer
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When you are done with your 800whp sr20det with vvtc, solid lifter, lash killer, big cams, and big turbo...LEt me know ok...very well said...and true. Glad someone undersands the concept....honda on homie!
I think you need to lay off the internet bench racing and get back on topic.
By the way, vvtc is not the same as vtec.
vvtc changes cam timing profile, vtec changes cam lobe profiles.
I'm not the one who started this...I just reply to whomever speaks to me. Get your facts straight. I stated MY opinion, and some honda super hero decided I was the villan, and attacked.
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I'd be willing to bet that this man knows more about nissan and honda than you do about one or the other. Listen. Learn.When you are done with your 800whp sr20det with vvtc, solid lifter, lash killer, big cams, and big turbo...LEt me know ok...
I think you need to lay off the internet bench racing and get back on topic.
By the way, vvtc is not the same as vtec.
vvtc changes cam timing profile, vtec changes cam lobe profiles.
yeah,yeah...i know how the systems work...they both strive for the same end result....just getting there by differing means. I never said I was building an sr like that...I just answered the kid who said something about 9k revs and vtec.When you are done with your 800whp sr20det with vvtc, solid lifter, lash killer, big cams, and big turbo...LEt me know ok...
I think you need to lay off the internet bench racing and get back on topic.
By the way, vvtc is not the same as vtec.
vvtc changes cam timing profile, vtec changes cam lobe profiles.
My car will be streetable...800whp doesn't sound very streetable to me....technically I'm not bench racing...I have all the necessary parts sitting right here in front of me (minus my turbo and wastegate)....just have to wait to get this cast off my foot, and then find a place where I can turn wrenches.
this thread topic seems dead...didn't mitsuman say he wasn't repling here anymore? Guess we'll just wait for the race date.
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And that would prove what? You don't know jack about me, or what I know....so you sound silly for even saying that....what? are we gonna go on automotive jeporady to see who leaves with the grandprize?
Geez.....when do I get my very own set of groupies?
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ok...I don't feel soo bad for going off topic now....this fool just beat me by post lengths
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ok...this is my last post on this thread until a race happens...anyone have anything to say to me, start a new thread and let me know where it's at through pm. Later boyz and girlz.
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Just trying to instigate and talk a little shit, just like you.
I just had to say something when I saw that god awful purple mustang in your sig. I couldn't help it. It just popped out and onto the screen.ok...I don't feel soo bad for going off topic now....this fool just beat me by post lengths
What we do know is:
1. that you have a lot animosities against a honda
2. you claim when you are done with your car, no honda can beat you (bench racing)
3. you don't even have a car that is drivable (bench racing)
4. can't make up your mind with driveablity vs. horsepower (bench racing)
I for one has both vehicles (honda and nissan) and among other vehicles. I know what is the capacity of both.
(threadjack) sorry, how is your hatch coming? I was thinking you should be about done but I haven't seen a new post in the UP forum in a while. (/threadjack)
waiting on the STUPID new distributor that was suppose to be released from MSD 6 months ago....
was suppose to be end of august, now they pushed the release date back again....
Hey man
You have a car that's not fucking running. My mom's stock Lexus will beat you. So shut the fuck up until you have something even worth bringing.
You are bench racing. This means you suck and have nothing to run. So shut the fuck up until you can prove your car is worth a shit. Because if you want to speak hypotechtically I've got a Civic with a EVO 8 drivetraind and a 2JZ-GTE making 1,200awhp on pump gas.
In the end, Honda>Nissan.
I'd like to know what turbo Honda's you were racing on the highway with your 350Z. I'm guessing SOHC's and the one's that run 14's at Commerce. I'm faster than most of the turbo Honda's around here and all I have is bolt ons. Shitty setups and shitty drivers lead many Honda's to be slow. But you gotta remember, when you are dealing with Under Pressure their is an actual level of standard. We put turbo's on our cars to go faster, not for show points like most fucks. We actually build cars with balls. Also, we aren't Honda Only, but we are smart enough to realize Honda has more potential than most cars.
What are you planning on racing with, You fuck? You're Nikes?
^^^^lmao. hahahahaahahahaha. +1
haha, thanks, I try.
"UNDER PRESSURE Nigga" ---Tupac S.
obviously you don't drive shit right now except some slow S13 thats not even running yet. Sure i turn my own wrenches and i have a car that will make more power on pump gas then your S13 could ever dream of since you are all into the pump gas nonsense and driving coast to coast. Let me know when you get that nissan going and you can have a shot at my car. I have 17 inch radials on the car as well.
If the trans or transfer case on the TEL doesn't self destruct first. At that kind of power level the AWD et/mph ratio is as bad as the FWD cars. I see a lot of fast AWD 1gs that run mid 140 traps and still only in the mid 10s. Peters car runs 10.3s@145 so at that level a well setup FWD car is just as competitive. Why don't you ask Mike Reichen how many parts his Turbo4 dsm has been through running high 9s and low 10s.
Ouch,Roti laying the smak down.
lol, wtf....
simple fucking answer....DO IT...then talk smack dumb ass.
Nice top mount setup.
pwndsimple fucking answer....DO IT...then talk smack dumb ass.
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