Callout THACKERASS

[Vteckidd]

i should have kept my mouth shut, because my opinions had nothing to do with this thread. It demeaned Phils car, which i wasnt trying to do, and my opiinon is something better saved for a different thread that is more technical in nature

[Fast Eddie G]

i cant wait to see this.....finally thacker would stop thinking his little GTO is the best when its not.....i hope he blows it up with his spray

[Motivation]

Wasn't this a callout thread? The last two pages made me forget what the thread was about... Can't there just be a clear yes or no answer, a set date and time, and a set wager, and that be that? (yes I know, before anyone tells me there was a set wager and , but there kept being things added) 5.7 called out thacker for 500, thacker agreed to the race.

[CHADbee]

5.7 called out thacker for 500, thacker agreed to the race.

i read that too.

[Evolunchbox]

I read your post, congrats, glad you like the power

Im getting out of this thread and keeping my opinions to myself. Its not worth a 45 page arguement and at the end of the day i have my opinion you guys have yours.

If you would like to know more search TRACY on EVOM, i said all i had to say there

Mike, chill bro, take a nice bubble bath, rub one out, and just relax. I was just trying to understand where you were coming from... I'm not pulling out my WHP penis, I never do... Again, just trying to understand. Remember, there is ALWAYS more than one way at skinning a cat... Especially when it comes to tuning. Keep learning so one day, when you have 16+ years of experience, we are arguing about you making sick power.. Think about it bro...

[2.3 Evo 8]

Mike, why do some tuners make different power than others with the same setup? Experience is the answer. There are other tuners making similar power as Buschur also. Not many, but there are a few. You said there weren't. Try looking up CFT and a couple other shops in Florida.

Isn't Bluebyyou's Evo tuned by Sharif @ Forged and isn't he making 530+whp on pump gas? Is he full of **** too because he's on a mustang dyno also making that much power?

Dave has many years of experience under his belt. This ain't his first rodeo.

My car made 562whp on pump and the reason it's laggy is because its a t67 p-trim on a 2.0l motor and a big ass sheet metal intake manifold made by AMS. The manifold makes more power up top, but pays for it down low. I can and probably will switch to the ported Indy/Wilson V2 stock manifold for better mid range. Indy has many years of experience under his belt also. His V2 manifold made more power than all the other sheet metal intake manifolds tested up to 8K rpms I believe.


There is no way around the lag, this turbo isn't the best combination for the 2.0l, but paired with the stroker 2.3l motor it isn't "as bad". Don't believe me, go take a ride in Nicks car and judge for yourself. Nicks car has certain parts on it that others don't normally do and his car spools INSTANTLY and pulls like a raped aped.

He demolished that TT350Z making 608whp on RACE GAS when Nick was on PUMP GAS. He pulled 5 cars instantly and the TT gave up within seconds. How can that be? The right combination of parts and one hell of a tuner.

All I can reiterate is that the right combination of parts make the build.


Psss, you can run more timing with the p-trim turbo because of the efficient wheel used. That in combination with a kick ass "race" fmic that keeps the intake temps cooler keeps the knock count very low. The way Buschur tunes it, the EGT's are normal.

...but you already knew this though because of experience, right?

[Vteckidd]

i dont know anything, you guys are right

[GGPIS3]

LOL i didnt get owned, this is just the wrong crowd to talk about technical engine data. I realized it was all off topic, and sh!t i answered 8 months ago on another forum.

I just choose not to continue the drama when there is no point.

But if it makes you feel better, i got SO PWNED shame on me

i don't think you got owned... this wasn't about someone getting owned. this is opinion vs. real world results. i can understand where Mike is coming from.. Buschur was able to defy physics if you so call it and all Mike is trying to do is understand how. just because Buschur danced around a question and didn't answer it the way you wanted him to, you automatically call bs. Now Mike, you know i got mad love for you, but sometimes you gotta take a step back and possibly reword what you're trying to get across. I can see what you're trying to accomplish but the way you're going about it is just going to stir up some more bs as you can see.

btw, you didn't call me today

[FAHHQUE700]

pee-pee poo-poo bulls#it when is the race going down?

[GGPIS3]

Wow deleting posts to make yourself look better, how typical of you. Dont you have some FAKE bride seats and bullsh.it chinese products to sell?

cmon josh.. completely uncalled for. he deleted the posts not to hide anything but out of respect for the original purpose of the thread. can't get upset over that.

[GGPIS3]

Well thats good for you. If thats true about your career, congratulations. I didnt really get this business "handed" to me I was just forced to take over it. Sorry if I got a little arrogant but it just ticked me off that you deleted posts like that and this isnt the first time ive seen you go on a power trip.

yay for josh! actually showing some maturity! +reps for you!

[2.3 Evo 8]

i dont know anything, you guys are right

Mike, I'll say it again. OTHER shops are tuning Evo's on pump gas @ 28-32psi making 530-580whp. I guess they don't know what they are doing also? You want to call BS on them too.

If you want to keep up with the "I know it all because I took EFI training" or "you're all right, I don't know jack" yada yada yada, go right ahead. A few years of tuning doesn't yeild enough experience for you to be calling BS on a guy who's been doing this since you were 10 YEARS OLD or younger. His cars have ran 7's and 8's in the 1/4, what have yours run?

He has 10 yrs on you, 10 YEARS!!!

Also, just because you drove around street racing in some slow ass NA Honda's for a few years doesn't mean you have the experience to be calling people out on their racing experience. Yes I said it, a 200-250whp NA Honda is slow as ****! I didn't know street racing was ranked so high on the list with experience.

Are you considering all your racing experience gained from all those roll races you did on the highway?

Experience is at the track, not I-85! Buschur has been drag racing his whole life, not skreet racing.

That head of yours is swelling more than your shoulders can hold.

I may sound a little harsh, but don't think I still don't love ya.

[Vteckidd]

Phil its obvious im not going to argue anymore, im simply stating bushur knows more than me, that is a true statement.

and my 240whp honda was a mid 11 second car

[Tech5]

hollyy molly Batman! lol@ MIKES sig!

[2.3 Evo 8]

Phil its obvious im not going to argue anymore, im simply stating bushur knows more than me, that is a true statement.

and my 240whp honda was a mid 11 second car

Yeah, but it weighed what? 2,200-2,400lbs. It is a heavy go cart on steriods. Anywho!

I just find if funny you will call BS on Buschur's tuning, but say Sharif @ Forged knows what he is doing.

Sharif tuned Bluebyyou's Evo on his Mustang dyno and @ only 27 psi is making 533whp on pump gas. They were waiting on the COP ignition to turn it up to 30 psi on pump which would probably put him right around my power if not more. Wouldn't you agree?

Anyways, we retuned with some fresh two step colder NGK coppers, and ditched the ignition amplifier, and got some really nice results. Still on pump gas and stock ignition system, and 27psi for now. The car pulls like a raped ape! I never had a clean run previously at 26psi....now she pulls really cleanly!

I can keep going....

[2.3 Evo 8]

Where the hell is Thacker?

Removing the kit from the Camaro and installing it in the Goat? lol

[seriousb13]

my 240whp honda was a mid 11 second car

Video or timeslip would be nice!

[SicStang03]

MOD WARS!!

[NevrNufTorq]

Video or timeslip would be nice!

get off of here or talk to someone who knows ...all the oldschoolers know its true

[SleepingTalon]

Why doesn't someone just post the bin file from their AEM and show the timing map? That way the argument will come to an end.

[sleepys4]

Why doesn't someone just post the bin file from their AEM and show the timing map? That way the argument will come to an end.

Truly no one really cares except mike..all the buschar cars now they run good, no need to prove it to someone with any money involved.

[DieselNuts]

I think a new thread needs to be made for this call out....

[Dr.G35]

werd^

[2.3 Evo 8]

Why post the AEM file and give away his secrets? Let people keep guessing. Let them keep thinking there is only boost and no timing on the car, LOL.

[Ronsam2006]

Why post the AEM file and give away his secrets? Let people keep guessing. Let them keep thinking there is only boost and no timing on the car, LOL.

I really think Buscher has a trade secret...its probably involved in the head work...but who knows..

[Undie_Skidz]

It is simply just waaaaaaay too much to bumble through almost 13 pages of BS and take it all in. Plus im too lazy to read it all and just skimming over it even gives me a headache.

I see some people jealous of Buschur, cant comprehend thing, talking about WWD Honduh's, talking crap in general, cyber sexing with one another, jack-a-lackin their keyboard, arguing and talking about how you need a GTO to compensate for a small penis. That was only after skimming over about 6 pages.

So many smackdowns that need laid and such little time.....

Evo's whoopin ass all day long! I got my money on Phil.

[2.3 Evo 8]

Mods, lock this thread. Too much garbage in here so I started another.

You can lock the other thread after Thacker responds.

[GirlieZ]

[wantboost]

^^you just made the thacker threads look good lolol

[GirlieZ]

^^you just made the thacker threads look good lolol

no prob i have my google image page ready with images for you boys