NEED:BIKE KILLERS AKA CHRIS AND NICK LOL

[BlewByYouEvo]

Yes, but I have a stronger bottom end than he does, we have same size turbo, but different manifolds, tuning, etc. There are alot of factors besides motor size and turbo size that determine overall power.

Oh, and if we were going by your logic, same turbo and same motor size should make similar power, so how is that a pretty big claim? Nick knows all about my build and he will tell you it should be similar power. I have seen his dyno charts and compared them to mine. Granted they are on a different dyno but even so his appears to pick up power a good 500rpms faster than mine. This is part of the reason I requested he dyno at Forged, so we can accurately compare notes.

[2.3 Evo 8]

Yes, but I have a stronger bottom end than he does, we have same size turbo, but different manifolds, tuning, etc. There are alot of factors besides motor size and turbo size that determine overall power.

Oh, and if we were going by your logic, same turbo and same motor size should make similar power, so how is that a pretty big claim? Nick knows all about my build and he will tell you it should be similar power. I have seen his dyno charts and compared them to mine. Granted they are on a different dyno but even so his appears to pick up power a good 500rpms faster than mine. This is part of the reason I requested he dyno at Forged, so we can accurately compare notes.

You forgot the most important thing, the tuner! You can have the same parts but I would bet $ his car makes more power on ForgedP dyno than yours does at the same boost level.

His car spools faster because the man who tuned his car knows how to make each and every turbo shine. I'm not saying Shariff can't tune, but he ain't no David Buschur.

You won't be able to look at his AEM logs either. Those are top secret for a reason.

You have a stronger bottom end then he does? How so? I guess Shep running Buschur's off the shelf bottom end sucks running in the 7's? I just don't understand some of the claims and comments you make.

[BlewByYouEvo]

You forgot the most important thing, the tuner! You can have the same parts but I would bet $ his car makes more power on ForgedP dyno than yours does at the same boost level.

His car spools faster because the man who tuned his car knows how to make each and every turbo shine. I'm not saying Shariff can't tune, but he ain't no David Buschur.

You won't be able to look at his AEM logs either. Those are top secret for a reason.

You have a stronger bottom end then he does? How so? I guess Shep running Buschur's off the shelf bottom end sucks running in the 7's? I just don't understand some of the claims and comments you make.

I actually did mention the tuning. How much you willing to put down that his car will make more power on Forged's dyno than mine at the same boost? Thats a bold statement in itself considering you dont know all the facts. I dont need to look at his AEM logs and oh btw he cant look at my FCon logs because those are only accessible by a FCon Pro Dealer.

You dont understand the "claims and comments" because you dont know the facts. Ill take my AMS 2.3RR motor over a buschur 2.3 anyday and if you ask any Evo owner who knows anything about motor builds they will tell you the same thing. Its fact, it IS a stronger bottom end. Why did Shep not run that motor, for one is hadnt been released yet. Why are you all over my back on this dude? Your so confident in Nicks car that you shut down any possibility of anyone else having a setup that will make similar numbers. I'll be the first to say that Nick has an amazing setup, but that doesnt mean nobody else can touch him. Am I saying my car IS faster, no. But I think there is a chance that it could be.

As for the spool up, its also a good chance that it just appears that way because of the different types of dyno we were on. The dynamics is a load based dyno, and I dont believe Buschurs mustang dyno is. There are also several factors as far as the dyno setup that can change the graph the dyno puts out.

[2.3 Evo 8]

I got nothing but money to burn pal, let me know when your ready to race. That will end this discussion. Then we can put more money on the dyno run when your ready for that.

I actually did mention the tuning. How much you willing to put down that his car will make more power on Forged's dyno than mine at the same boost? Thats a bold statement in itself considering you dont know all the facts. I dont need to look at his AEM logs and oh btw he cant look at my FCon logs because those are only accessible by a FCon Pro Dealer.

You dont understand the "claims and comments" because you dont know the facts. Ill take my AMS 2.3RR motor over a buschur 2.3 anyday and if you ask any Evo owner who knows anything about motor builds they will tell you the same thing. Its fact, it IS a stronger bottom end. Why did Shep not run that motor, for one is hadnt been released yet. Why are you all over my back on this dude? Your so confident in Nicks car that you shut down any possibility of anyone else having a setup that will make similar numbers. I'll be the first to say that Nick has an amazing setup, but that doesnt mean nobody else can touch him. Am I saying my car IS faster, no. But I think there is a chance that it could be.

As for the spool up, its also a good chance that it just appears that way because of the different types of dyno we were on. The dynamics is a load based dyno, and I dont believe Buschurs mustang dyno is. There are also several factors as far as the dyno setup that can change the graph the dyno puts out.

[2.3 Evo 8]