Kill: Miata VS Z06

[Z U L8R]

Originally Posted by Z U L8R
miata vs 510 , power to weight? ^.-

And of course that black Miata is gay. I will even say that. Look at him. I drive a Miata..knowing I am so confident in my **** size and bein straight that I can drive a gay car. You all are just scared to drive one and be in the open like that. Being scared to drive such a tiny car means.....

what's about ur miata vs my 72 510? it's apples and apples, both are light cars that can handle and have 4 cylinders, hell, mine's a 4 door!

Dave

[santacruz77]

lol simon doesnt think 510s are gay.

i havnt seen yours pics please!!!!! i want a wagon

[matthewAPM]

Originally Posted by Z U L8R
miata vs 510 , power to weight? ^.-






what's about ur miata vs my 72 510? it's apples and apples, both are light cars that can handle and have 4 cylinders, hell, mine's a 4 door!

Dave

stock for stock? if not...bye bye miata

[OnURleft]

I really want to own a 510. Dave i'm jealous

[matthewAPM]

I really want to own a 510. Dave i'm jealous

there is a really nice one that autocrosses in the atlanta region. those things like to be sideways

[OnURleft]

there is a really nice one that autocrosses in the atlanta region. those things like to be sideways

I'll stick with Miata to autox. I want a 510 with an M50,280z or 13B swap + turbo

[matthewAPM]

I'll stick with Miata to autox. I want a 510 with an M50,280z or 13B swap + turbo

hmm...trade for M3?

2JZ 510 y0. lol. imma PM u the other cars im looking at...

[redrockets13]

there's l28's in 510's thus there can be 2jz's in 510's....however this beast is just a wimpy ka ^_^, should run low 10's with 450rwhp tho...got traction?

[SicStang03]

payments...

Ya, payments suck.... when daddy pays them

















LOL... just trying to keep this thread going

[matthewAPM]

Ya, payments suck.... when daddy pays them

















LOL... just trying to keep this thread going

man i ask him everyday. its on me.

a miata would beat a vette at road atlanta...

[Lankhoss]

man i ask him everyday. its on me.

a miata would beat a vette at road atlanta...

Hmmm? Vettes own at Road Atlanta (any road course, actually)

[santacruz77]

ya id have to agree i know miatas are the **** but a stock miata is not beating a stock vette at road atlanta.

[Elbow]

Yeah stock for stock I will say the Vette would win, but not much mods the Miata would eat it alive in corners.

[matthewAPM]

spec miata vs stock vette...spec miata>vette

[Doppelgänger]

what times do stock Vettes run at RA?

[matthewAPM]

slow. like most ive seen are around 1:46-1:50.

[blackbeast99]

Yeah stock for stock I will say the Vette would win, but not much mods the Miata would eat it alive in corners.

Are you serious? In terms of what? Entering speed, exiting speed, or not hitting the brakes at all because you don't carry enough speed through the turn?

[santacruz77]

lol at you.

[198plus]

Someone needs to lay off the CRACK PIPE This thread is hilarious

[Lankhoss]

ya id have to agree i know miatas are the **** but a stock miata is not beating a stock vette at road atlanta.

Ha ha....have you even driven a Vette before?

[Thighs]

Are you serious? In terms of what? Entering speed, exiting speed, or not hitting the brakes at all because you don't carry enough speed through the turn?

miata + intake/exhaust + good suspension + good tires = faster than any stock vette at RA. and STILL alot cheaper.

[Lankhoss]

miata + intake/exhaust + good suspension + good tires = faster than any stock vette at RA. and STILL alot cheaper.

Uh...negative. It'd take a LOT more than an intake and exhaust to keep up with a Vette. You put slicks on any car and it's gonna handle like crazy, but a Vette is good enough in the turns - stock - that it'd be able to stay ahead of a Miata around the track.

And was this discussion about which was faster around RA, or which was cheaper?

[Thighs]

Uh...negative. It'd take a LOT more than an intake and exhaust to keep up with a Vette. You put slicks on any car and it's gonna handle like crazy, but a Vette is good enough in the turns - stock - that it'd be able to stay ahead of a Miata around the track.

And was this discussion about which was faster around RA, or which was cheaper?

you think so? youre wrong. vettes are good in corners, but theres this little detail called weight. and miatas dont have any. have you ever seen a spec miata? all they have is intake, evhaust, suspension, and no interior. the cage makes up for most of the weight of the interior, so theres not a big advantage there. and they arent on slicks, they are only allowed to run on DOT approved tires, and thats only on a regional level. nationally they are only allowed to run on toyo RA-1s.

and it doesnt matter whether its about faster or cheaper, the miata is both of those.

[Lankhoss]

you think so? youre wrong. vettes are good in corners, but theres this little detail called weight. and miatas dont have any. have you ever seen a spec miata? all they have is intake, evhaust, suspension, and no interior. the cage makes up for most of the weight of the interior, so theres not a big advantage there. and they arent on slicks, they are only allowed to run on DOT approved tires, and thats only on a regional level. nationally they are only allowed to run on toyo RA-1s.

and it doesnt matter whether its about faster or cheaper, the miata is both of those.

Yes, I've seen those.......and they f'in suck. MAYBE around a small track that is nothing but turns, but there are way too many straights at RA, it is a high speed course.

[03CobraAV8R]

A spec Miata is not faster around Road Atlanta than a Z06 - it just isn't, I have seen quite a few running up there mixed in with various other relatively slow cars, and the spec Miata seems to always be running quite a bit slower than the majority - for example, lightly modded Mini Cooper-S' were running faster lap times. I didn't make it that way, it's just the way it is. I'm sure they're great fun though, especially for the price.

For example, here's some video from Willow Springs of a spec Miata - terrible handling - extremely slow. Check 5:40 for a yellow Evo that walks by him - and a Z06 at ~8:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j16jvJnYk5U

[Thighs]

^^ i appreciate your not-so-elitist stance... lol. if the stock zo6 is on stock tires, it has no chance. but on equal tires, its a little diffierent... lol

[03CobraAV8R]

^^ i appreciate your not-so-elitist stance... lol. if the stock zo6 is on stock tires, it has no chance. but on equal tires, its a little diffierent... lol

Hehe, I don't think so, even if the Miata could be faster through the turns, the Z would just destroy it on the straights, and would most likely run several seconds a lap faster.

[Thighs]

Hehe, I don't think so, even if the Miata could be faster through the turns, the Z would just destroy it on the straights, and would most likely run several seconds a lap faster.

the miata would be far enough ahead before te back straight to keep the lead. im not saying it would be a HUGE lead, but maybe .5-1 sec

[Thighs]

A spec Miata is not faster around Road Atlanta than a Z06 - it just isn't, I have seen quite a few running up there mixed in with various other relatively slow cars, and the spec Miata seems to always be running quite a bit slower than the majority - for example, lightly modded Mini Cooper-S' were running faster lap times. I didn't make it that way, it's just the way it is. I'm sure they're great fun though, especially for the price.

For example, here's some video from Willow Springs of a spec Miata - terrible handling - extremely slow. Check 5:40 for a yellow Evo that walks by him - and a Z06 at ~8:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j16jvJnYk5U

lawl thats not a spec miata... this is.

this vid might suck though. i cant watch them so idk.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rkRkQ1UMnIo

[OnURleft]

Hehe, I don't think so, even if the Miata could be faster through the turns, the Z would just destroy it on the straights, and would most likely run several seconds a lap faster.

First off, what we are talking about is a PERFECT lap, with no mistakes and pro times. What holds any "street car" back is the lack of predictability, lack of pads, lack of tires that can deal with the heat and the fact that if your running balls out your street tires are going to shred them up and your brakes would be done after 3 laps. Now with a instructor/pro driver its easy to do that perfect lap despite that, so if you lined them up this is what I think based on my experience....


So...coming from someone who has tooled around in both and has instructor friends with one or both...the Spec Miata on R comps would give the C6z a nice run for its money. What most of you will learn if you get in Motorsports is how little the straight line factor plays in your overall time. The Vette is slightly faster , but the Miata is easier to go flat out in and your going to have way more fun in it as long as you want. Even with the pads the brakes on the Z06 are inadequate for anything as long as a spec race. Also, I'd give the spec Miata the edge over the C5 but I would be suprised if it was more than a second. Dot Approved tires on a spec Miata can get you to 1:42-1:43 and you'd be running similar or slightly faster in a C6z for that single digit amount of laps you get in before the brakes and tires give ..but we're comparing a spec car to a stock car so thats pretty damn good I.M.O. for the Vette.

A spec Miata is not faster around Road Atlanta than a Z06 - it just isn't, I have seen quite a few running up there mixed in with various other relatively slow cars, and the spec Miata seems to always be running quite a bit slower than the majority - for example, lightly modded Mini Cooper-S' were running faster lap times. I didn't make it that way, it's just the way it is. I'm sure they're great fun though, especially for the price.

For example, here's some video from Willow Springs of a spec Miata - terrible handling - extremely slow. Check 5:40 for a yellow Evo that walks by him - and a Z06 at ~8:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j16jvJnYk5U

haha. Almost. Spec Miata's have hard tops, full cages, no interior and that one just looks far from spec based on what i'm watching. My guess is thats a guy just doing a D.E as he's in no suit and is going D.E speed in a D.E like Miata

[Lankhoss]

lawl thats not a spec miata... this is.

this vid might suck though. i cant watch them so idk.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rkRkQ1UMnIo

Those are all Miatas racing each other. What times do you usually turn at RA with a Spec Miata?

[Thighs]

Those are all Miatas racing each other. What times do you usually turn at RA with a Spec Miata?

no **** theyre all miatas... thats what spec miata is.

does ANYBODY except me and m5 know wtf theyre talking about?

spec miatas run between 1:40 and 1:45 if theyre even close to being competitive.

[198plus]

You need to check out this its called ZO6 101 watch and learn. Also has them at Road Atlanta

http://www.leechvideo.com/video/view2821938.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiA7vVydWaQ

the miata would be far enough ahead before te back straight to keep the lead. im not saying it would be a HUGE lead, but maybe .5-1 sec

[JITB]

whatever car that ur most familiar with will always be better.. so both sides... shut up

[On_Her_Face]

Z06 around nurburg = 7.43
miata = 10+ minutes
Zonda type S = 7.44

theres a small comparison and as you can tell miata ftw.

[OnURleft]

Z06 around nurburg = 7.43
miata = 10+ minutes
Zonda type S = 7.44

theres a small comparison and as you can tell miata ftw.

oh snap. now someone's brought a stock miata and the ring into the arguement. That course has no straight aways...

[On_Her_Face]

and as you can tell the miata has no powa!

[OnURleft]

and as you can tell the miata has no powa!

and all you need is power on a road course...

[On_Her_Face]

and all you need is power on a road course...

well the z06 has some power and leaf springs

[OnURleft]

well the z06 has some power and leaf springs

haha power is nice. It def. does more with less..if you ignore displacement. Someone was comparing a street car to a spec car so thats an achievement I think is amazing.