lol ok i'll post it again. i was only going to go with the jba catless mids until i could afford a nice set of headers... well i picked up these lt's for the same price i would've paid for the mids... so my conclusion was even if it was a temporary fix, it would do much better than the mids alone... however, after further research and as posted on ls1gto.com , marylandspeed did dyno testing btw the current kooks, pacesetters, then a new set of prototype kooks. while the new kooks produced a much better powerband, the pacesetters only dyno'd 5whp less than the current kooks headers. so i dont feel so bad about it.