You are correct Jerry. The car has not been retuned and is pig fat.( 1 CIVIC)You can ask ZU later and 198 plus. Last night I ran both of them and the car did not spin.After it is retuned it might possibly ,but as of now it dosn't! i realize that my car will pick up about 15% going to a 6 speed,but if I posted i would gain another 100rwhp you would of called bs on that also,so i was being conservative. If you would like to come out and run me ,You can see for your self!!!!No boost has been pulled out.When I was at the track I had the automatic with a stall converter. There is such a thing called (TORQUE MULTIPLICATION) in a stall.There is none in a 6 speed.That is how I was able to spin in second with the auto and Jerry probably explained it the best in his previous post.Believe me if I can find the guy this weekend I will see if he want's to run again and I will get it on video for Ya!! I have nothing to prove to you (1 Civic) as I was racing when you were in diaper's!!