6 Speed is great!!!

[1civic]

Let's get one thing straight. I have no reason to lie about anything. My car made 735rwhp with the auto and ran 135mph in the quarter spinning through second.If you are so smart then you will know that when you put a 6 speed in a car it will automatically make more horsepower!!! So I am guessing it make's in the range of 750rwhp or so now...

Well, I see now that you have no clue.... ... So you went from a Auto to a 6sp and only gained 15hp.... ... Dude most cars when Convertered to a Auto from a 5 or 6spd will Lose 15%... So Depending on what Auto Tranny you had Going to a 6spd, I would guess around 10-15% Gain !!.... Do the Math !!...
This is my thing, Your car Makes 700+ But you Hooked in 1st on the Street !.. You wrote that you Spun before down the Track and what did you change ?
It takes a Little more than a Touqe arm to make a car Hook, Hell even with 700+Hp on the street its not going to hook down low... ..
Now, I could give a shit about what you drive or who you are... When you post a Story online, Don't get all mad if someone calls BS... You posted it Not me..... ...

[Curmudgeon]

... Dude most cars when Convertered to a Auto from a 5 or 6spd will Lose 15%... So Depending on what Auto Tranny you had Going to a 6spd, I would guess around 10-15% Gain !!.... Do the Math !!...
...

Actually, while the 15-20% that everyone throws around as a loss/gain is rule of thumb, the rule is inaccurate at best.

Example, my last 346" driven M6 went 460rwhp/424rwtq. Let's use 20% as the loss(rwhp x 1.20(20%)= 552 FWHP)through a heavy ass driveline.... steel DS, 12 bolt/4.56's, and 28" slicks.

Swapped in a braked stalled lock up TH400 and went 440/400 which shows a loss of an additional 20 rwhp.

New motor w/the same TH400 went 540/500(648 FWHP, again using 20%)through the same driveline. So.... if I swapped the same M6/clutch & flywheel back in it would go 81+ rwhp more? The math says not.

Driveline loss is drive line loss, and is what it is. It doesn't increase exponentially with power increase. That would be like saying it would take 300 FWHP in a 2000 FWHP motor to turn the same driveline I'm turning with 108 total FWHP in a 648 FWHP motor

I could understand and agree that when going to an unefficiantly built trans/converter combo, or even add in gearing/tire combo's the loss would increase(or decrease), but I don't buy the 15-20% across the board blanket statement for every application.

I HAVE done the math.

Back to Chris being full of shit......

He is not.

Have a nice day

[1civic]

Actually, while the 15-20% that everyone throws around as a loss/gain is rule of thumb, the rule is inaccurate at best.

Example, my last 346" driven M6 went 460rwhp/424rwtq. Let's use 20% as the loss(rwhp x 1.20(20%)= 552 FWHP)through a heavy ass driveline.... steel DS, 12 bolt/4.56's, and 28" slicks.

Swapped in a braked stalled lock up TH400 and went 440/400 which shows a loss of an additional 20 rwhp.

New motor w/the same TH400 went 540/500(648 FWHP, again using 20%)through the same driveline. So.... if I swapped the same M6/clutch & flywheel back in it would go 81+ rwhp more? The math says not.

Driveline loss is drive line loss, and is what it is. It doesn't increase exponentially with power increase. That would be like saying it would take 300 FWHP in a 2000 FWHP motor to turn the same driveline I'm turning with 108 total FWHP in a 648 FWHP motor

I could understand and agree that when going to an unefficiantly built trans/converter combo, or even add in gearing/tire combo's the loss would increase(or decrease), but I don't buy the 15-20% across the board blanket statement for every application.

I HAVE done the math.

Back to Chris being full of shit......

He is not.

Have a nice day

Ok you Quoted what I had to say.... .. Did you not Notice that it says it depends on the Tranny.... .. Your right its not they same for ever car or setup...

My Example: We put a th400 in a 2v KB car that made 800/800 threw a 5spd... It now makes 642/654...... Thats almost a 20% loss ...
I could go on and on about this But I'm done...Its Pointless !! .. I'll let you Cheby guys claim your fame over here on IA... But just be sure you don't post your Bullshit on Ls1 Tech or StreetCarForums... If you did, You'd be called out on what you think you know... I already see this Mr Hunter don't have a Clue, He lets his Buddys do all the Tech talk for him... ...

[Incontt]

[QUOTE=1civic]Ok you Quoted what I had to say.... .. Did you not Notice that it says it depends on the Tranny.... .. Your right its not they same for ever car or setup...

My Example: We put a th400 in a 2v KB car that made 800/800 threw a 5spd... It now makes 642/654...... Thats almost a 20% loss ...


You need to start getting good converters and not one like the shitpile you apparently installed in that 2v KB car.

Have you been to the track to see how many bikes dont even run 10s? Great riders from a dig arent the norm.

Why would Chris lie about it? Did anyone seem overly impressed? At his power level, anything can happen on the streets.
Chris, next time use a turbod viper in your story,,,now THAT would impress me

[Curmudgeon]

Jerry..... you must remember, this is IA where every 1civic owns you.

[1civic]

[QUOTE=Incontt]

Ok you Quoted what I had to say.... .. Did you not Notice that it says it depends on the Tranny.... .. Your right its not they same for ever car or setup...

My Example: We put a th400 in a 2v KB car that made 800/800 threw a 5spd... It now makes 642/654...... Thats almost a 20% loss ...


You need to start getting good converters and not one like the shitpile you apparently installed in that 2v KB car.

Have you been to the track to see how many bikes dont even run 10s? Great riders from a dig arent the norm.

Why would Chris lie about it? Did anyone seem overly impressed? At his power level, anything can happen on the streets. Chris, next time use a turbod viper in your story,,,now THAT would impress me

It was from JW...
Now You yourself Did Not beleave this man... You had to go ask someone Else, Now you want to be his Buddy.... ...
Why is it hard to believe, Cause He is the Only Person Claiming those #'s and saying the car Hooks on Nitto's... Now if you said the car makes less Power it would have been easier for me to understand, Your the One who posted he ran 10's I think He said that was Spinning down the track... Also its posted that he did this switch without retuning the car... How much sense would that make... ...
So this is what I got... The car is Pig Rich Making no Boost and no Power so it Hooks... .. Keep running the Car Untuned and be sure you do a Long pull on the Hwy.... .. Then Post the car Blowed Up...

[Hunter02SS]

I don't let my buddy's do all the talking for me. it is just that they know me and my car. Must be real big of you to talk all this shit about me while I am out having dinner with my family! As far as posting all this on other site's you did just fine and was told the same thing.

Ok you Quoted what I had to say.... .. Did you not Notice that it says it depends on the Tranny.... .. Your right its not they same for ever car or setup...

My Example: We put a th400 in a 2v KB car that made 800/800 threw a 5spd... It now makes 642/654...... Thats almost a 20% loss ...
I could go on and on about this But I'm done...Its Pointless !! .. I'll let you Cheby guys claim your fame over here on IA... But just be sure you don't post your Bullshit on Ls1 Tech or StreetCarForums... If you did, You'd be called out on what you think you know... I already see this Mr Hunter don't have a Clue, He lets his Buddys do all the Tech talk for him... ...

[slowhawk01]

Why is it such a big deal that he out ran a bike and hooked on nittos???? I raced a 2002 R1 in my firehawk and was making around the same power Chris was making and pulled him hard about 75MPH on. It doesn't matter what bike it is its all about the rider. I have raced my R6 at the track ALOT and have to say its all about rider. I cut a second off my time from the first pass to the last pass just from learning how to race the bike down the track. Also people who street race alot know that certain roads and pavements hook better than others. My car hooks fine on 575, but 985 its all over the damn place. Good kill Chris. Maybe Bobby could bring his rattle trap of a mustang out and show everyone how a real race car runs

[Curmudgeon]

LOL! I'll quote you again so that perhaps this time you can see that what I'm saying is NOT what you're saying

... Dude most cars when Convertered to a Auto from a 5 or 6spd will Lose 15%... So Depending on what Auto Tranny you had Going to a 6spd, I would guess around 10-15% Gain !!.... Do the Math !!...

The LOSS between a manual vs. auto is NOT an additional 15%!!!!!

It's the TOTAL driveline loss..... or so the rule of thumb would dictate.

I'll let you Cheby guys claim your fame over here on IA...

LOL! The day I feel the need to "claim my fame" on IA is the day I'll put a bullet in my head

But just be sure you don't post your Bullshit on Ls1 Tech or StreetCarForums... If you did, You'd be called out on what you think you know...

LMHWMFAO

I already see this Mr Hunter don't have a Clue, He lets his Buddys do all the Tech talk for him... ...

And it didn't take long for you to show me you're clued in either

[1civic]

LOL! I'll quote you again so that perhaps this time you can see that what I'm saying is NOT what you're saying



The LOSS between a manual vs. auto is NOT an additional 15%!!!!!

It's the TOTAL driveline loss..... or so the rule of thumb would dictate.



LOL! The day I feel the need to "claim my fame" on IA is the day I'll put a bullet in my head



LMHWMFAO



And it didn't take long for you to show me you're clued in either

You feel better..... ... Let me guess you got a Cheby..... ..
So you got a F-body and you know it all.... ... When you guy post this shit on LS1 Tech please post the link... Until then I have no respect for you.... ..

Edit: Mr Hunter, Be sure to post your Kill on LS1 Tech or StreetCarForums, I would love to see what some of these other guys have to say...

[Curmudgeon]

You feel better..... ... Let me guess you got a Cheby..... ..
So you got a F-body and you know it all.... ... When you guy post this shit on LS1 Tech please post the link... Until then I have no respect for you.... ..

Edit: Mr Hunter, Be sure to post your Kill on LS1 Tech or StreetCarForums, I would love to see what some of these other guys have to say...

Actually....
didn't feel bad to begin with. Thanx for askin'

Got an F-body. Don't know it all. Know quite a bit, but not all of it-

No problem posting the link. Is what it is.

Don't much give a fuck who you do or don't respect.

Have a nice day!

[1civic]

Actually....
didn't feel bad to begin with. Thanx for askin'

Got an F-body. Don't know it all. Know quite a bit, but not all of it-

No problem posting the link. Is what it is.

Don't much give a fuck who you do or don't respect.

Have a nice day!

Thats Really nice to know... Glad you don't feel bad !....
How does you car hook on the street ?
You got Nitto's ?
Your car runs mid 10's Right ?
Do you think you can out run a GSX-R 1000 from a Dig on the Street ?

[Curmudgeon]

Thats Really nice to know... Glad you don't feel bad !....
How does you car hook on the street ?
You got Nitto's ?
Your car runs mid 10's Right ?
Do you think you can out run a GSX-R 1000 from a Dig on the Street ?

Hooks good.
12 ways/coilovers/Adj. rod ended everything on slicks full time
No Nittos.... thanx anyway
Yes. On motor
Yes

[Curmudgeon]

This is great fun-
Thought you were done?

[Curmudgeon]

Thats Really nice to know... Glad you don't feel bad !....
How does you car hook on the street ?
You got Nitto's ?
Your car runs mid 10's Right ?
Do you think you can out run a GSX-R 1000 from a Dig on the Street ?

Just out of shear boredom/curiosity.... what's YOUR shit run?

From a dig?
How does YOUR car hook?
YOUR car runs mid 10's right?
Do you think YOU can out run a GSX-R 1000 from a dig on the street?

Fuck a roll-

[1civic]

Just out of shear boredom/curiosity.... what's YOUR shit run?

From a dig?
How does YOUR car hook?
YOUR car runs mid 10's right?
Do you think YOU can out run a GSX-R 1000 from a dig on the street?

Fuck a roll-

Its Slow...
Good
Nope
Not on the Street