6 Speed is great!!!

[Hunter02SS]

On the way home tonight a couple of street bike's pulled up beside me and wanted to play.So we came to a red light and when it turned green we rolled out to about 15mph and it was on. I hammered it in 1st granny shifted 2nd and pulled him in 2nd and 3rd was leaving him!! Got to about 5000rpm in third and we had to slow down. I asked what size bike it was and he said it is a GSXR 1000!!!
My car hook's amazingly well in first and second. I wish I never spent the money on the auto!i would of liked to see what the bike would do on the hwy,but I believe he was headed home as I was. It was fun!

[Incontt]

what boost/tires to hook in 2nd????
Glad the tranny is working out for you...nice kill already!!

[iloveboost]

I'm also curious to know what tires you're running.

Good kill!

[Hunter02SS]

I am running the nitto's still.Nothing has changed. Still at 12lbs of boost.The only thing I did was put the new torque arm on.It is the one the remove's it from the tail housing and mount's about half way under the car.The car just squat's a little and go's.Something is working right on it!

[Incontt]

WOW.....that is very impressive!!

[CHADbee]

beating a 1000 in a car is allways just amazing. i would loved to see the look on that guys face

[1civic]

....I call BS........ Nitto's Suck.. And it was Proable a 250cc Bike...lol Whats your car run in a 1/8 or 1/4 Mile ? ...

[Incontt]

I know he ran a 10.7 but i forget the boost...like 135 mph....that was with an auto

[1civic]

I know he ran a 10.7 but i forget the boost...like 135 mph....that was with an auto

He is going to lose time when he goes back to the track with the 5spd... Hate to say it but its true...

[DieselNuts]

He is going to lose time when he goes back to the track with the 5spd... Hate to say it but its true...

do you know why autos are used on the strip more than manual cars? I'll wait for your answer before I tell you...

[1civic]

do you know why autos are used on the strip more than manual cars? I'll wait for your answer before I tell you...

Hummm.... No I don't please do tell.....

[1civic]

This is why I called BS.... This is what these bikes will do in a 1/4 mile... Link is posted also... Ether the guy lied about the bike or your car runs 9's which I'm sure it don't....

GSX-R1000 ('01) 10.10 @ 141.70
GSX-R1000 ('02) 9.92 @ 144.96
GSX-R1000 ('03) 10.09 @ 141.45
GSX-R1000 ('04) 9.96 @ 144.7
GSX-R1000 ('05) 9.79 @ 148.4

Here is the link.. Before you post some smart ass Comment....
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_...rs/index8.html

[DieselNuts]

This is why I called BS.... This is what these bikes will do in a 1/4 mile... Link is posted also... Ether the guy lied about the bike or your car runs 9's which I'm sure it don't....

GSX-R1000 ('01) 10.10 @ 141.70
GSX-R1000 ('02) 9.92 @ 144.96
GSX-R1000 ('03) 10.09 @ 141.45
GSX-R1000 ('04) 9.96 @ 144.7
GSX-R1000 ('05) 9.79 @ 148.4

Here is the link.. Before you post some smart ass Comment....
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_...rs/index8.html

well here is a comment that isnt smart ass. Those are professional riders. Plus, have you noticed that when a car outruns a bike, its on top end? if you get a car that runs the same 1/4mi. as a bike and run them both from a 40-50mph roll, the car will beat the bike in the 140mph+ zone. Once you get to a certain speed, aerodynamics become a huge factor. Cars that have the power to turn an ET the same as a crotchrocket have enough power to overcome they're lack of aerodynamics to a point so they dont have to worry about them untill even higher speeds. Ever notice that a foxbody mustang is such a popular drag car, but has the aerodynamics of a brick?

[1civic]

well here is a comment that isnt smart ass. Those are professional riders. Plus, have you noticed that when a car outruns a bike, its on top end? if you get a car that runs the same 1/4mi. as a bike and run them both from a 40-50mph roll, the car will beat the bike in the 140mph+ zone. Once you get to a certain speed, aerodynamics become a huge factor. Cars that have the power to turn an ET the same as a crotchrocket have enough power to overcome they're lack of aerodynamics to a point so they dont have to worry about them untill even higher speeds. Ever notice that a foxbody mustang is such a popular drag car, but has the aerodynamics of a brick?

Oh Jack nut read his Post, It was from a Light... 15mph Kick he let up in 3rd..

[keevo54]

This is why I called BS.... This is what these bikes will do in a 1/4 mile... Link is posted also... Ether the guy lied about the bike or your car runs 9's which I'm sure it don't....

GSX-R1000 ('01) 10.10 @ 141.70
GSX-R1000 ('02) 9.92 @ 144.96
GSX-R1000 ('03) 10.09 @ 141.45
GSX-R1000 ('04) 9.96 @ 144.7
GSX-R1000 ('05) 9.79 @ 148.4

Here is the link.. Before you post some smart ass Comment....
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_...rs/index8.html

But the guy he raced could be an average or below average rider. Your an idiot. Just because one driver can run a 9.79 doesnt mean it is easily replicated

[1civic]

But the guy he raced could be an average or below average rider. Your an idiot. Just because one driver can run a 9.79 doesnt mean it is easily replicated

No shit.... But I was Looking at the Trap Speeds cause they Don't lie... If his car traped only traped 130 then no matter how bad the rider a Bike will trap 140 pretty easy...

Any more NutSwingers Ready to chim in.....

[Hunter02SS]

Let's get one thing straight. I have no reason to lie about anything. My car made 735rwhp with the auto and ran 135mph in the quarter spinning through second.If you are so smart then you will know that when you put a 6 speed in a car it will automatically make more horsepower!!! So I am guessing it make's in the range of 750rwhp or so now.We ran from about 3500 in 1st up to about 5000rpm in third for me.whether he let off or what i do not know but he was not giving anything to me! Maybe he couldn't ride i do not know but The faster i went the further he was behind.The gsxr 1000 was i guess by looking about a 99 or so maybe newer. They all look the same to me! You don't know me so don't talk shit about me or my car. If you can outrun me,then talk all the shit you want,until then STFU!!!!!

This is why I called BS.... This is what these bikes will do in a 1/4 mile... Link is posted also... Ether the guy lied about the bike or your car runs 9's which I'm sure it don't....

GSX-R1000 ('01) 10.10 @ 141.70
GSX-R1000 ('02) 9.92 @ 144.96
GSX-R1000 ('03) 10.09 @ 141.45
GSX-R1000 ('04) 9.96 @ 144.7
GSX-R1000 ('05) 9.79 @ 148.4

Here is the link.. Before you post some smart ass Comment....
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_...rs/index8.html

[1civic]

Let's get one thing straight. I have no reason to lie about anything. My car made 735rwhp with the auto and ran 135mph in the quarter spinning through second.If you are so smart then you will know that when you put a 6 speed in a car it will automatically make more horsepower!!! So I am guessing it make's in the range of 750rwhp or so now...

Well, I see now that you have no clue.... ... So you went from a Auto to a 6sp and only gained 15hp.... ... Dude most cars when Convertered to a Auto from a 5 or 6spd will Lose 15%... So Depending on what Auto Tranny you had Going to a 6spd, I would guess around 10-15% Gain !!.... Do the Math !!...
This is my thing, Your car Makes 700+ But you Hooked in 1st on the Street !.. You wrote that you Spun before down the Track and what did you change ?
It takes a Little more than a Touqe arm to make a car Hook, Hell even with 700+Hp on the street its not going to hook down low... ..
Now, I could give a shit about what you drive or who you are... When you post a Story online, Don't get all mad if someone calls BS... You posted it Not me..... ...

[Curmudgeon]

... Dude most cars when Convertered to a Auto from a 5 or 6spd will Lose 15%... So Depending on what Auto Tranny you had Going to a 6spd, I would guess around 10-15% Gain !!.... Do the Math !!...
...

Actually, while the 15-20% that everyone throws around as a loss/gain is rule of thumb, the rule is inaccurate at best.

Example, my last 346" driven M6 went 460rwhp/424rwtq. Let's use 20% as the loss(rwhp x 1.20(20%)= 552 FWHP)through a heavy ass driveline.... steel DS, 12 bolt/4.56's, and 28" slicks.

Swapped in a braked stalled lock up TH400 and went 440/400 which shows a loss of an additional 20 rwhp.

New motor w/the same TH400 went 540/500(648 FWHP, again using 20%)through the same driveline. So.... if I swapped the same M6/clutch & flywheel back in it would go 81+ rwhp more? The math says not.

Driveline loss is drive line loss, and is what it is. It doesn't increase exponentially with power increase. That would be like saying it would take 300 FWHP in a 2000 FWHP motor to turn the same driveline I'm turning with 108 total FWHP in a 648 FWHP motor

I could understand and agree that when going to an unefficiantly built trans/converter combo, or even add in gearing/tire combo's the loss would increase(or decrease), but I don't buy the 15-20% across the board blanket statement for every application.

I HAVE done the math.

Back to Chris being full of shit......

He is not.

Have a nice day

[1civic]

Actually, while the 15-20% that everyone throws around as a loss/gain is rule of thumb, the rule is inaccurate at best.

Example, my last 346" driven M6 went 460rwhp/424rwtq. Let's use 20% as the loss(rwhp x 1.20(20%)= 552 FWHP)through a heavy ass driveline.... steel DS, 12 bolt/4.56's, and 28" slicks.

Swapped in a braked stalled lock up TH400 and went 440/400 which shows a loss of an additional 20 rwhp.

New motor w/the same TH400 went 540/500(648 FWHP, again using 20%)through the same driveline. So.... if I swapped the same M6/clutch & flywheel back in it would go 81+ rwhp more? The math says not.

Driveline loss is drive line loss, and is what it is. It doesn't increase exponentially with power increase. That would be like saying it would take 300 FWHP in a 2000 FWHP motor to turn the same driveline I'm turning with 108 total FWHP in a 648 FWHP motor

I could understand and agree that when going to an unefficiantly built trans/converter combo, or even add in gearing/tire combo's the loss would increase(or decrease), but I don't buy the 15-20% across the board blanket statement for every application.

I HAVE done the math.

Back to Chris being full of shit......

He is not.

Have a nice day

Ok you Quoted what I had to say.... .. Did you not Notice that it says it depends on the Tranny.... .. Your right its not they same for ever car or setup...

My Example: We put a th400 in a 2v KB car that made 800/800 threw a 5spd... It now makes 642/654...... Thats almost a 20% loss ...
I could go on and on about this But I'm done...Its Pointless !! .. I'll let you Cheby guys claim your fame over here on IA... But just be sure you don't post your Bullshit on Ls1 Tech or StreetCarForums... If you did, You'd be called out on what you think you know... I already see this Mr Hunter don't have a Clue, He lets his Buddys do all the Tech talk for him... ...

[Curmudgeon]

LOL! I'll quote you again so that perhaps this time you can see that what I'm saying is NOT what you're saying

... Dude most cars when Convertered to a Auto from a 5 or 6spd will Lose 15%... So Depending on what Auto Tranny you had Going to a 6spd, I would guess around 10-15% Gain !!.... Do the Math !!...

The LOSS between a manual vs. auto is NOT an additional 15%!!!!!

It's the TOTAL driveline loss..... or so the rule of thumb would dictate.

I'll let you Cheby guys claim your fame over here on IA...

LOL! The day I feel the need to "claim my fame" on IA is the day I'll put a bullet in my head

But just be sure you don't post your Bullshit on Ls1 Tech or StreetCarForums... If you did, You'd be called out on what you think you know...

LMHWMFAO

I already see this Mr Hunter don't have a Clue, He lets his Buddys do all the Tech talk for him... ...

And it didn't take long for you to show me you're clued in either

[1civic]

LOL! I'll quote you again so that perhaps this time you can see that what I'm saying is NOT what you're saying



The LOSS between a manual vs. auto is NOT an additional 15%!!!!!

It's the TOTAL driveline loss..... or so the rule of thumb would dictate.



LOL! The day I feel the need to "claim my fame" on IA is the day I'll put a bullet in my head



LMHWMFAO



And it didn't take long for you to show me you're clued in either

You feel better..... ... Let me guess you got a Cheby..... ..
So you got a F-body and you know it all.... ... When you guy post this shit on LS1 Tech please post the link... Until then I have no respect for you.... ..

Edit: Mr Hunter, Be sure to post your Kill on LS1 Tech or StreetCarForums, I would love to see what some of these other guys have to say...

[collins]

Ether the guy lied about the bike or your car runs 9's which I'm sure it don't....

i'm sorry, but do you drive a civic?

nice kills hunter!

[on 3]

if you know some much than you would know he has a 6spd

[on 3]

thank you ^^^^^^^

[1civic]

thank you ^^^^^^^

For what...

[2.0civic]

uhhh....what cars are quicker (stock) up top than a gsxr1k?

[OneSlow5pt0]

uhhh....what cars are quicker (stock) up top than a gsxr1k?

SLR Mclaren

[DieselNuts]

SLR Mclaren

how do you figure that a low 11sec car will beat a high 9sec bike?

edit: I see now that it says quicker up top.....that I still dont know.

[DieselNuts]

Oh Jack nut read his Post, It was from a Light... 15mph Kick he let up in 3rd..

well, you got me there. your right about that one.

Hummm.... No I don't please do tell.....

its not because they are quicker...whats your guess?

uhhh....what cars are quicker (stock) up top than a gsxr1k?

who said anything about a stock car?

[1civic]

its not because they are quicker...whats your guess?

So you think He will run Faster with a 6Spd over Say a Built TH400, Glide..Etc....

[1civic]

Let get something Stright.... I did not say a GSX-R 1000 will beat any car from a Roll...... ... I'm talking about a Drag race from a Traffic Light....

[DieselNuts]

So you think He will run Faster with a 6Spd over Say a Built TH400, Glide..Etc....

if the auto is leaving the line off the foot brake, then yeah. The whole reason behind having an auto for the strip is because they are consistant. You dont have to worry about miss shifts. Having a trans brake and stall converter, you leave at the exact RPM you want to leave at every time.

Let get something Stright.... I did not say a GSX-R 1000 will beat any car from a Roll...... ... I'm talking about a Drag race from a Traffic Light....

yeah, I realize that now. The other part of my other post will stay dormant for another thread

[1civic]

if the auto is leaving the line off the foot brake, then yeah. The whole reason behind having an auto for the strip is because they are consistant. You dont have to worry about miss shifts. Having a trans brake and stall converter, you leave at the exact RPM you want to leave at evertime

Your right for the Most Part But there is a Little more too it.... ...

[keevo54]

Let get something Stright.... I did not say a GSX-R 1000 will beat any car from a Roll...... ... I'm talking about a Drag race from a Traffic Light....

The drivers ability is more noticeable from a standstill than from a roll. It is challenging to launch a gsxr 1000 properly; therefore it is typically easier to beat them from a dig as long as the car hooks

[StupidBikerBoy]

Not gonna read all the ignorance in this thread, but in the little I did read DesielNuts pretty much sumed up the truth.
Most (if not all) 10 second cars will beat the average joe on a GSXR1000 AT ALL SPEEDS.

Go to any track at any time and you'll see people running 11's and even 12's on Busa's, which are MUCH easier to drag than any other gixxer. Racing bikes is a whole different world than cars. There are many factors they have that arent as much a factor in a car. I have seen 12 second cars beat 1000's. You just need to know the time.

Now as far as the professional times posted on the first page, a 10.7 car is easily capable of pulling even a rider of that caliber from a roll. And even at low speeds, bacause the 1000's are setup for road race, very powerful, and VERY hard to drag

Trust me, I've been racing bikes for 15 years.

And when it comes to drag racing bikes in my car, unless its slammed and stretched I dont even think twice.

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were's your scooter i'll run it

[1civic]

were's your scooter i'll run it

For the right amount You'll see what Scooter I Run....

[GangstaCoupe]

I am not a nut swinger, but anything can happen on the street, not to mention over 85% of the people who ride now adays are marginal at best... And in one of his posts I thought I read he made low 7XX's... so I would be willing to bet it was possible.

[on 3]

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