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    Ok Guys... Its been fun... There is only one way I would win here so I'm out... I'm around all the Time.. .. We can finish in person if you like, Otherwise I'm done... You Guys Win !!.... Later !

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    uh...no Chris won.....that was the point

    He is prolly out running tonight...hopefully he will come back with another exciting tale of the Nittos!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Incontt
    uh...no Chris won.....that was the point

    He is prolly out running tonight...hopefully he will come back with another exciting tale of the Nittos!!!

    And that would be Nice... Something else for me to read... Hopefully its a Busa...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1civic
    And that would be Nice... Something else for me to read... Hopefully its a Busa...
    That is just it, Some of us actually do race and tell the story's while other's just sit back and wish they could race and tell story's.Get a life!

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    I am not taking sides on this but I was in a 02 SS with bolt ons only last night with Nitto's and suspension work on the rear and he couldn't get it to hook even leaving at 1,500 and then hammering it. Still blew the tires off and so we tried it in several ranges. The only time he could get it to "dead hook" somewhat was 1/2 through 2nd and then still hazed a little when he went into 3rd. He was running the NT555R stock engine, manual tranny, dry pavement. I know the factors of tire pressure, rim size, tire size, etc. So don't bother trying to educate me on that issue.

    Now I am the last one to call BS on anything because I have seen some weird things happen in my lifetime but if the car was making so low of boost for it to spin in 1st gear and he still out ran a Gixer 1000 then the guy on the bike needs some serious freaking riding lessons and that Camaro had to be feathering that clutch or launching @ 1,200 rpms and patting on it the whole time.

    Now argue all you want to but those are simple statements not meant for a flame war by any means. Stupid shit happens but I don't see it in my farthest dream land that anyone with a 10.70 car on Nitto's will never out run a Gixer 1,000 with an experienced rider on it.

    Take a 10.70 car and swap tires to Nitto's and tell me what it will run then? I honestly don't know but I am open for some guessing. I would guess mid 11's myself and that's if you could get some traction somewhere through the gears.

    Hey Hunter what was your 60 ft on that 10.70 pass and what kind of tires were you running then with that 10 bolt?

    I am not being bias and will gladly post this on SCF also.

    Chris

    EDITED: I see you ran that 10.7 on Nitto's at a well prepped track with a stock 10 inch rear end? You definitely have balls. The tires apparently are working for you better than any I have ever experienced myself but I know several on here that run them impressively.
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    Keep in mind bugman that when I ran the 10.70 I was also on nitto's. The way I drive the car on the street is the way i was at the track. I don't expect everybody to believe me ,because when I asked him what size bike it was I was the last person to expect him to say a 1000. But it did happen and I know alot depend's on the rider also.My 60's were I believe1.75 or so range. I don't have the slip in front of me.I never changed tire's. The same nitto's at the track are on for the street.




    Quote Originally Posted by BUGMAN
    I am not taking sides on this but I was in a 02 SS with bolt ons only last night with Nitto's and suspension work on the rear and he couldn't get it to hook even leaving at 1,500 and then hammering it. Still blew the tires off and so we tried it in several ranges. The only time he could get it to "dead hook" somewhat was 1/2 through 2nd and then still hazed a little when he went into 3rd. He was running the NT555R stock engine, manual tranny, dry pavement. I know the factors of tire pressure, rim size, tire size, etc. So don't bother trying to educate me on that issue.

    Now I am the last one to call BS on anything because I have seen some weird things happen in my lifetime but if the car was making so low of boost for it to spin in 1st gear and he still out ran a Gixer 1000 then the guy on the bike needs some serious freaking riding lessons and that Camaro had to be feathering that clutch or launching @ 1,200 rpms and patting on it the whole time.

    Now argue all you want to but those are simple statements not meant for a flame war by any means. Stupid shit happens but I don't see it in my farthest dream land that anyone with a 10.70 car on Nitto's will never out run a Gixer 1,000 with an experienced rider on it.

    Take a 10.70 car and swap tires to Nitto's and tell me what it will run then? I honestly don't know but I am open for some guessing. I would guess mid 11's myself and that's if you could get some traction somewhere through the gears.

    Hey Hunter what was your 60 ft on that 10.70 pass and what kind of tires were you running then with that 10 bolt?

    I am not being bias and will gladly post this on SCF also.

    Chris

    EDITED: I see you ran that 10.7 on Nitto's at a well prepped track with a stock 10 inch rear end? You definitely have balls. The tires apparently are working for you better than any I have ever experienced myself but I know several on here that run them impressively.

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    damn chris IA is turning u into a dick. lol
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    Some people just wish they could do what other people do.In stead they like to discredit them and bash them. Oh well,I don't care. I know the truth ,and have no reason to lie about it!

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    LOL @ what this thread has become.. Look, I know Chris and I know Chris's car VERY WELL.. It is very fast and pulls like a jet when it gets into boost. As far as the 10.7 at the track. That was his very first time at the time with this set up, and he was on Nitto's & stock suspension. He put a adjustable torque arm on the car now (which for those that don't know f-bodies, that makes a Night and Day difference).. So his next track visit should be a good low 10s high 9s day.. And honestly once the boost is cut up on that car, I got $1000 that say no other streetcar/daily driver can touch it from 50-140...

    Bobby... look into the light please. I understand that the fastest car you owned ran low 13's. It's cool. Hey if everyone was fast, this site wouldn't be fun. So suck up the pissed offness, and listen to me when I say Chris's car outran a Gixxer 1000.

    And to all the bitch ass haters on this bored..
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    ^^^^^^What he said^^^^^^^^

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    wow...1000 bux huh? Chris turns it up and he may need to run from 80mph and up
    Chris, hows the retune?
    Crafty, low 10s, high 9s at what boost?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Incontt
    wow...1000 bux huh? Chris turns it up and he may need to run from 80mph and up
    Chris, hows the retune?
    Crafty, low 10s, high 9s at what boost?
    I don't think he'll have a problem from a 50ish roll. The car hooks hard now.. and it's got tires now..

    I think he could run those times at 12-13psi if he could get the 60fts down to a 1.3-1.4.. I've seen cars that with less hp and around the same weight run those times.. I could be wrong but thats just my guess.
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    based on my own car, i think he can do it....wont be long and we can find out I hope. When you hitting the track Chris?


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    I am looking forward to Chris getting his car dialed in on tires and the 6 speed so we can both turn up the boost and run each other at SDR or somewhere. That should be lots of fun....2 fast heavy chevys gettin down!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Incontt
    I am looking forward to Chris getting his car dialed in on tires and the 6 speed so we can both turn up the boost and run each other at SDR or somewhere. That should be lots of fun....2 fast heavy chevys gettin down!
    make sure i get invited to go have some fun as well jerry!! hopefully i wont have to put a beting on anyone wanting to do burnouts in the prking lot near my car throwing up gravel

    and no offense to you crafty cause i know you know your $hit but hunter will never go 1.3-1.4 60's with a 6 speed. especially on nittos. you get some 15-16" wheels with some et streets maybe, but still tough!

    not saying this thing wont stroll out and as a former busa man, i know how well he killed that 1000 with the power he has. my as always fellas!

    hope all the lil fixes go well!!
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    Hell no it won't do those 60 ft time's,especially with the weight of my car.Especially not on nitto's.I do have some mt's though,but don't plan on using them anytime soon.



    Quote Originally Posted by NevrNufTorq
    make sure i get invited to go have some fun as well jerry!! hopefully i wont have to put a beting on anyone wanting to do burnouts in the prking lot near my car throwing up gravel

    and no offense to you crafty cause i know you know your $hit but hunter will never go 1.3-1.4 60's with a 6 speed. especially on nittos. you get some 15-16" wheels with some et streets maybe, but still tough!

    not saying this thing wont stroll out and as a former busa man, i know how well he killed that 1000 with the power he has. my as always fellas!

    hope all the lil fixes go well!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter02SS
    Hell no it won't do those 60 ft time's,especially with the weight of my car.Especially not on nitto's.I do have some mt's though,but don't plan on using them anytime soon.
    you impress me once again with your knowledge in every post. reps for you!!

    on a side note, with a drag type suspension(don't know what you have) if your front lifts enough on take off, your weight transition in the heavy chassis will help you to run lower 60's since it would be even grater load weight on the rear tires.
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    My car is actually lowered,but i do have some suspension mod's,but not all of it is complete.It seem's to hook pretty good now, but i don't want it to hook extremely well yet. I have the stock 10 bolt and it is screaming at me to take it out. I have a 9in. in the garage I have to get gear's for and it will be going in.



    Quote Originally Posted by NevrNufTorq
    you impress me once again with your knowledge in every post. reps for you!!

    on a side note, with a drag type suspension(don't know what you have) if your front lifts enough on take off, your weight transition in the heavy chassis will help you to run lower 60's since it would be even grater load weight on the rear tires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NevrNufTorq

    and no offense to you crafty cause i know you know your $hit but hunter will never go 1.3-1.4 60's with a 6 speed. especially on nittos. you get some 15-16" wheels with some et streets maybe, but still tough!
    He has 15" welds with 325 50 15s M/Ts and thats the set up i was referring to..
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    Damn good thread... If you would like to make a video PM me. I have a '06 GSXR 1000 Mods: Yoshi slip on, PC III, Art fender hugger, sprokets -1 (counter) & +2 (rear) and lowered a tad. I live fairly close to you... you can prove that you can beat a 1000. And you don't have to drive too far. PM me if your interested. I might be out tonight? dunno I just got back from vacation, kinda tired...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAHHQUE700
    Damn good thread... If you would like to make a video PM me. I have a '06 GSXR 1000 Mods: Yoshi slip on, PC III, Art fender hugger, sprokets -1 (counter) & +2 (rear) and lowered a tad. I live fairly close to you... you can prove that you can beat a 1000. And you don't have to drive too far. PM me if your interested. I might be out tonight? dunno I just got back from vacation, kinda tired...
    Sound's good to me!!!!A pm is on the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FAHHQUE700
    Damn good thread... If you would like to make a video PM me. I have a '06 GSXR 1000 Mods: Yoshi slip on, PC III, Art fender hugger, sprokets -1 (counter) & +2 (rear) and lowered a tad. I live fairly close to you... you can prove that you can beat a 1000. And you don't have to drive too far. PM me if your interested. I might be out tonight? dunno I just got back from vacation, kinda tired...
    Not sure if you meant me or the OP since is was after my post. PM sent...

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    We found some issues with Chris's car today on the dyno. So if i were him i'd hold off on that race til those issues are fixed..
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    Quote Originally Posted by crafty
    We found some issues with Chris's car today on the dyno. So if i were him i'd hold off on that race til those issues are fixed..


    ... Did you really think you could make the change from auto to 6 and not retune.... .. Or is it something else ?. .. I just now get online and read all the Bullshit after I said I was Done... Go read the Post on SCF, And Don't worry it was post before I logged on here... :...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1civic
    ... Did you really think you could make the change from auto to 6 and not retune.... .. Or is it something else ?. .. I just now get online and read all the Bullshit after I said I was Done... Go read the Post on SCF, And Don't worry it was post before I logged on here... :...
    You need to redirect your words.. I know more about performance cars than you could ever possible remember. WTF would lead you to think that we would retune the car after doing the swap.. We don't do shit like you, we actually buy new parts. We don't build junk yard cars..
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    Quote Originally Posted by crafty
    You need to redirect your words.. I know more about performance cars than you could ever possible remember. WTF would lead you to think that we would retune the car after doing the swap.. We don't do shit like you, we actually buy new parts. We don't build junk yard cars..
    tips tables is probably the only thing that would need adjusting, and with more timing, you can assume with a little timing +/- , fuel could be changed as well. But, drivability wise... The car should be fine... if this was a Manual to Automatic (Electronically controlled) then a retune would defiantly be needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crafty
    You need to redirect your words.. I know more about performance cars than you could ever possible remember. WTF would lead you to think that we would retune the car after doing the swap.. We don't do shit like you, we actually buy new parts. We don't build junk yard cars..

    Why don't you tell us about what happen on the Dyno... I'm sure something wasn't right....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1civic
    Why don't you tell us about what happen on the Dyno... I'm sure something wasn't right....
    The car was breaking up on topend. So Chris put new plugs in it and we havn't gone back yet..
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    Quote Originally Posted by 1civic
    Why don't you tell us about what happen on the Dyno... I'm sure something wasn't right....

    he still had more power than you ever will

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    that sux


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    They are semi eazy fixes just takes time..
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    The main problem is i havn't changed out my spark plug's since the engine was built,and running it pig rich killed them today. I could only pull to about 4800 rpm before it would start missfiring. Anyway they will be changed out in the morning.

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    He had an auto when he ran 10.7 Next track outing with the 6 speed should add a little more data to chew on. It will be funny if in the end, the rider was lying and it was a 600 bike


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    I am old and senile and can't remember shit but from what I read about his car it should be in the high 9's instead of high 10's. I didn't pay attention to when the auto/stick change was made exactly but all that put together with a 600 bike? Well I have seen it done from a dig, 302 stock bottom with heads and a 125 shot.

    I never intentionally try to be a dick on here but it was hard for me to believe someone could drive a Gixer 1000 that shitty.

    Hunter next time you go to the track let me know if it is local, I'd like to see your car run. I am not hung on Ford's, I like em all.

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    Nevrnuftorq, I will let you know next time I go at least. Dunno when Hunter is going again. I may try to go friday night to SDR or Steele I still want to get that 9 sec pass at low boost. I can do it with a tick better 60'....just may have to take slicks instead of DRs on a friday night to do it. Best pass at low boost was 10.006-139mph on a 1.58 60' 3940 raceweight. I just added 40# with my boombox/amp/front swaybar. The weight wont much matter but hopefully the swaybar wont hurt much. It just drives SO much better with it attached. maybe i will undo one endlink for the track.


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    with the auto, the 9" wasnt really a necessity over 1.5x 60' but with the stick, you need it. get ready for more weight....now you see how my turd got to 3980 raceweight and 4050 with the street wheels.
    What gear you thinking of?


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