
Originally Posted by
A.A
the first one is better, but i'd keep trying if i were you.
looks like you want to include that slogan in the logo which is cool. ...um... a look and feel for your business with a timeless symbol that you can keep for its life is the goal right. building it yourself, going blind at it, just keep on building new variations of your logo and let them marinade on ya.
you could also stand over a designer, let them throw something at you, then guide them with changes you want. you would still want to let it sink in til you like it or hate it... because this logo should be your brand forevermore.
good luck.