im not stumbling for answere, its just everytime i say something you spinning it around, but its cool whatever, you want go ahead and say, but i didnt open the is topic for discussiion , i opened it for a invite to my church group, so if your not intrested sorry wish you were but i cant tell you to come, but for everyone else you can contact me for info, its not a big group its just a couple of people, hanging out watching the service, so let me know