Interesting question. I am far too busy to come here in this forum and discuss/debate these issues anymore, I am sure ya'll didnt miss meOriginally Posted by Romeyo07
... but nevertheless....a few things stand out to me as a student of religion.
Its quite interesting to me that virtually no Christian group has any problem with the 10 commandments...except for the 4th one. (except for the catholic church who also edit/disregard the commandment pertaining to bowing to idols) In fact most heartily support the 10 commandments...well except for the specific instruction of the 4th commandment which they forget...which is also interesting because thats the only one that mentions the word remember.
I find it ironic that many of these groups complain bitterly when a picture or representation of the commandments is removed from a school/courthouse etc but those same people really dont care about ALL of the commandments.
The ones who profess to care about the 4th commandment make edits to the Scripture or excuses as to why its not valid, which is also inconsistent. Either the commandments are binding principles of God or theyre not. Mankind isnt free to pick and choose which commandments are "convenient" or which principles they want to agree with IF they want God to save them. The Bible speaks at great lengths about obedience. Obedience is a fruit of one who is truly following God.
A couple other facts from a strict Biblical standpoint... from Genesis to Revelation there is not one text doing away with the seventh day Sabbath, on the contrary, the entire Scripture supports it. The Bible even teaches that specific day will be observed in the new earth/heaven. There is also not ONE Bible text instructing/transfering the day of worship to sunday. It is totally a man made invention based in pagan sun/fertility worship as others have pointed out. Its invention had nothing to do with being "less jewish" but everything to do with being "more pagan"...more roman catholic.
As a political/historical note, enforced sunday obervance as national law was considered and narrowly defeated in congress in the late 1800s. I think that many pseudo-christian groups today (Pat Robertson types & the roman catholic church etc) would now happily support such a law....which actually viloates every principle of Scripture. Many states and municipalities still/already have "blue laws" which are designed to enforce sunday observance as the "sabbath". In some areas those laws are occasionaly enforced. In one part of Maryland a fellow was arrested for washing his car on sunday when I was there a couple years back.
All groups have their issues, some in one area, some in another. Some honestly keep all the commandments which is all fine and good, yet ignore other "weightier matters" as Christ Himself pointed out. Some just want you to accept a certain teaching and "join" their group/church. Others are just sharing something theyve found and believe. The bottom line is for any Christian, if you want to know what God wants you to do, (about this or any question) honestly seek Him, without personal bias or preference, follow every word He reveals to you, seek knowlege through prayer & study and He will show you exactly what you should do. The information is all there, all you have to do is look for it.
As to Romeyos question...apparantly it must matter as God saw fit to identify a specific day of worship. He never said "Remember ANY day of your choosing to keep it holy..."
Why would man choose to forget that which God said to remember?
Even Jesus said the sabbath was made for mankind...and thats the word he used when translated.
Why would anyone willfully choose to disregard the "appointment" God set aside to meet with them? Humans show even more respect for other humans then that. If you have an appointment with a doctor at a specific time you show up at that time....IF...you want to be treated. Why not show God the same respect? Does man really expect God will do whatever suits mankind?
Christ kept the commandments...all 10 of them. He taught all others to do the same. He summarized the ten commandments, reiterating them by saying "Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thine heart (Mans duty to God, the principles contained in commandments 1 thru 4) and love thy neighbor as thyself." (mans duty to man outlined in comandments 6 thru 10)
Should mankind ignore what Christ said?
Can man expect to be saved from sin/death etc while purposefully & intentionally disobeying (FORGETTING) Gods commandments & principles?
I've searched long but never found such in Scripture. On the contrary, Christ said "My sheep hear MY voice...they follow ME."
Keep in mind, I am not interested in anyone joining my church...or meeting my pastor/teacher/bishop/rabbi/guru....I belong to none & have none.
Now.... back to your regular debates/arguments/flaming etc
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