? for the Atheists

[quickdodge®]

The fact remains, there IS evidence OF/FOR Creation.

Wouldn't that be more opinion? I agree with Hulud in that what you see as "creation," others would believe it is scientific. You(sorry, not you personally) think it's "creation" because you believe in God. Others may see the same thing, but since they don't believe in God, believe it to be of a scientific origin. You see where I'm coming from.

Now I know you'll probably make a response trying to make me look like I'm an idiot, because that is the usual for you towards me in here. But my reply is just that. A reply and an observation that I see. Later ,QD.

[metalman]

Wouldn't that be more opinion? I agree with Hulud in that what you see as "creation," others would believe it is scientific. You(sorry, not you personally) think it's "creation" because you believe in God. Others may see the same thing, but since they don't believe in God, believe it to be of a scientific origin. You see where I'm coming from.

Now I know you'll probably make a response trying to make me look like I'm an idiot, because that is the usual for you towards me in here. But my reply is just that. A reply and an observation that I see. Later ,QD.

First, I have no desire to make you look like an idiot. Period. If I have done that to you I apologize. It was not intentional.

I cannot warranty what you might do to yourself. Hey, I am joking man....Seriously.

As to your point...

The scientific explanation/origin for the particular item is INSTANT ROCK. There is no other scientific explanation or origin.

Given that we have only two theorys on the table THIS evidence only fits with one....Creation. Therefore it clearly is evidence for the Creation theory.

Does it prove creation beyond a shadow of any doubt scientificly to all humans? No.
Is it clearly evidence for instant creation as indicated in the Bible? Yes.
Is it evidence that clearly eraticates the theory of rock being formed over milions & milions & millions of years? Yes. This discovery alone makes that theory (for which there is no evidence) impossible.

Now then, when you couple this evidence with the OTHER evidence (much mentioned in other threads) together a picture begins to emerge. And that picture clearly points to creation as the "most likely" scenario that brought us to existence.

As I said, my point was that evidence for creation exists, and clearly exists, and those who say it doesnt exist are telling something untrue.

[Hulud]

As I said, my point was that evidence for creation exists, and clearly exists, and those who say it doesnt exist are telling something untrue.

actually it doesnt
how do bubbles in a rock prove creation?
untill you witness a rock or human or whatever pop out of no where into life then you can say there is evidence but until then its still only theory like evertything else

[metalman]

actually it doesnt
how do bubbles in a rock prove creation?
untill you witness a rock or human or whatever pop out of no where into life then you can say there is evidence but until then its still only theory like evertything else

Fact-
Its not a "theory" that those exist....they DO. You can even look at pictures of them. Theyre not a theory, they are existing physical evidence, just like fingerprints at a crime scene.

No matter how you put your hands over your eyes so that you can't seem them, theyre still there.

[Hulud]

Fact-
Its not a "theory" that those exist....they DO. You can even look at pictures of them. Theyre not a theory, they are existing physical evidence, just like fingerprints at a crime scene.

No matter how you put your hands over your eyes so that you can't seem them, theyre still there.

i know they exist but im saying creation is a theory

[quickdodge®]

First, I have no desire to make you look like an idiot. Period. If I have done that to you I apologize. It was not intentional.

I cannot warranty what you might do to yourself. Hey, I am joking man....Seriously.

Thanks for your first comment. And a big LOLOL to the latter. Lolol.

Is it clearly evidence for instant creation as indicated in the Bible? Yes.


As I said, my point was that evidence for creation exists, and clearly exists, and those who say it doesnt exist are telling something untrue.

Yea, but the Bible is only as how each individual interprets it. Me personally, I can't base my whole life or the meaning of life or the beginning of life on a book that who really knows if it's based on fact or fiction. I think it's a great story/morals to live by book and nothing more.

And to clarify, metalman, I do believe in God, as horrid as it may sound coming from me. I just have too many questions that NO ONE will ever be able to answer. And, just as in my ghost hunting expeditions, I like to look at both sides of the coin when looking at something. Science and ?. Later, QD.

[Hulud]

I can't base my whole life or the meaning of life or the beginning of life on a book that who really knows if it's based on fact or fiction. I think it's a great story/morals to live by book and nothing more.

thats the truth

[metalman]

Yea, but the Bible is only as how each individual interprets it. Me personally, I can't base my whole life or the meaning of life or the beginning of life on a book that who really knows if it's based on fact or fiction. I think it's a great story/morals to live by book and nothing more.

I understand where youre coming from. I have been on "that side" so I can relate. Knowing whether the Bible is true/accurate or not is something all must wrestle with. All I can do is share my experience. I have taken things that are promises in the Bible and sincerely, with an honest prayerful heart, and approached them, tested them, asking God to show me. My thoughts are if there is no God, OR if His so-called Word isnt valid or accurate then those things won't be/come true. Lets face it, if you pray to a toad you get no answer. All that will happen is NOTHING.
Well all I can say is that I did get answers, I got conclusive results. Which then lead to more testing and trial of Biblical principles, and so on. It's a journey, and by no means one I have completed.

And to clarify, metalman, I do believe in God, as horrid as it may sound coming from me. I just have too many questions that NO ONE will ever be able to answer. And, just as in my ghost hunting expeditions, I like to look at both sides of the coin when looking at something. Science and ?. Later, QD.

I dont think it sounds "horrid" for anyone to say they believe in God.
I am a "horrid" person...I have come in time to believe in God, know what I mean?

I do understand being a sceptic. I am a very sceptical person, so I can relate.
Again, all I can tell you from my own experience is do not be too quick to assume that you will never find answers. I realize that some questions must wait to be answered but I would be cautious on saying exactly which those are.

[quickdodge®]

I dont think it sounds "horrid" for anyone to say they believe in God.
I am a "horrid" person...I have come in time to believe in God, know what I mean?

I know what you mean. I didn't mean horrid as in believing in God is horrid. I mean it as you see how I am on here, the language and such. A person like me believing. Later, QD.

[Romeyo07]

I know what you mean. I didn't mean horrid as in believing in God is horrid. I mean it as you see how I am on here, the language and such. A person like me believing. Later, QD.

Why should it matter how you talk on here? I don't think your language is as big of an issue as to the condition of your overall relationship with God. Everyone has one, good or bad, regardless if you acknowledge it or not. I know Christians who swear, its just something they try to deal with. Not to say its right, but it happens.