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    Quote Originally Posted by absoludely
    ^^^no clue, i'm not a believer, nor do i believe i as a human have the mental capacity to visualize a supposed almighty and omnipotent being. for me, u can say it's like trying to imagine a parking lot that's holding an infinity amount of cars...make sense?
    What is wrong with Infiniti cars? They are awesome. I don't have to visualize them, I work at an Infiniti dealership.

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    I'll take a crack at it for discussion sake.

    #1- "Forgiveness" is a very tricky issue to understand. The Bible clearly says that if someone TRULY asks for forgiveness AND repents (ie. does not do it again and changes their ways in order to avoid doing ANY sin again) then he/she will be forgiven.

    Too many people assume that means that you can just utter the words and be "saved" and suddenly you have this get out jail free card forever. Doesn't quite work that way. It is a never ending work in progress, just like life. People, including too many Christians, think it's a one time thing. Yes, it says in the Bible that "forgiveness" will be granted to EVERYONE. Yes, it also says you have to recognize Jesus as your ONLY saviour/way to heaven. But too often people assume that means it's a "do one thing and you're done" type thing. I don't think it is, nor should it be.

    #2- Swearing to God???? I'm a little lost here. What's that about? People put more weight on you "swearing to God" vs "swearing" period? I guess if you're God fearing, it could be.....but what if it comes from a heathen like Hulud or Bad apple ????JP. Seriously though, how is someone a better or worse liar by merely invoking God? The only thing I would imagine this has any relevance to religion per se is the fact that one of the Ten commandments does say NOT to use the Lord's name in vain. So, is someone "swearing to God" doing that? Maybe, if they KNOW they're lying but want to use "God" as a shield against telling the truth I suppose you could stretch it out to using the Lord's name in vain. Dunno.

    I'm not clear as to what your point was there.

    BTW, going to church to make your girl feel happy is not what church was meant to be. It should be YOUR decision. YOU will be judged by YOUR merits in the end, not your girl's.

    It's cool to go to her church and then YOU like it and continue it. But to go just for her is wrong IMO.

    Also, if ANY church makes fun of you for asking questions you may have.....that says TONS about that particular church and you should really consider if you want to be a part of that or not. Personally, I think it's wrong to chastize someone because they don't understand something. Atleast they have shown enough interest to ask a question, right? So why make them feel dumb. From infants to adults, if ANY church member can't answer their questions regarding religion with compassion and understanding that NONE of us KNOW everything........there's a problem IMO.


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