Quote Originally Posted by metalman
You have been somewhat misinformed.

First, there are not "so many rules" in true Christianity. Some churches have added all numbers of man made rules to Gods religion, something Christ admonished His followers against.

Secondly, willful sin and repentance as one willful act gets one no where near heaven.
That is a nonsensical roman catholic notion that has "infected" many so-called christain churches.

Its true that any sin can be forgiven, except one, BUT no one will fool the only perfect Judge when it comes to willful sin and insincere phony repentance.

That being said, it is also true that a murderer or similar wicked person can repent and be forgiven but that act MUST be genuine, not some plan to sneak it in before death. Thats neither logical or Biblical.

True repentance involves more then saying "I am sorry"

God calls for mankind to repent AND turn from ALL sin....immediately.

"Choose ye THIS DAY whom ye will serve...."

"Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."

"The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live."

"But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die."


"Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God..."


im not trying to be a smart ass so dont take it as that. but im not looking for someone to quote the bible. i would like your actually insite of it. those who quote books dont have a mind of their own. with messages from the bible you have to de-code them to even understand some of it.

i do understand all the things that you have to be true to your heart when you ask for forgiviness. but ok....hitler for example. you know what he had done. but yet lets say 2 weeks before he died he was true when he meant that he was sorry for the awful things he had done and yadda yadda yadda.........then someone kills him. WILL HE GO TO HEAVEN??

another example. i cannot remember who this killer was, but he apparantly killed over a dozen pple. but the day of his death which he was put in the chair. the pple who were the witnesses saw him pray and ask for forgiveness and the witnesses swore up and down even ( strong belief chirstians) that he went to heaven.

so whats the difference you go to heaven if you ask for forgivness a couple of days before you die? or you will go to heaven no matter what time as long as you ask for forgiviness before you die?


i know i have like 5 questions in one but....is the purpose of life as a christian to live good and pray and always ask for forgivness jus so we can go to heaven? is living a punishment so we can show god that we are loyal and then when we show that we are ( though life) we go to heaven to be with god?

what purpose does it serve to live life? when its a sin to kill one that has hurt you badly or it is a sin to have a child before marrige.

why not live to be one with yourself praise a god and not worship jesus. yes he died for our sins but what does that mean eactly. i thught jesus was a teacher authority didnt like and then they killed him cause he had too much power.( MLK JFK and so on) ( thats just the jist of it, didnt want to go into detailed cause ive already wrote enough)

and how can you actualy believe all the stories like lusapher(sorry cant spell it) the devil and god how they are against each other.why out of all things is he a snake? why not a snail or a bird? jus for that my grandmother hates snake anything!! because of the bible. and they are just as deadly as any other animal? alot of pple say " well thats just how it is" " god made it like that and thats what the book says" but these days pple dont believe everything that is written in a book. and bibbles are re-made every few years. How do you really know what Jesus has really done or said.

like that one guy that was on Oprah that wrote a fiction book and he swore up and down it was still a non-fiction book. pple had an outrage it was all over the news and cnn.

im not against christianity or any religion but alot ...and i mean alot of pple who are believe that any other religion is a fake and is not the true story....they even feel offensive when a person says they are catholic or muslim like they are beneath them.

but isnt there a famous quote " He who wins the war, writes the book"