is there god w/o the bible?

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05-26-2006, 12:29 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by Xan

If all christians ceased to be and all bibles and texts and reminders of "god" as we see him were destroyed then yes. God would be FORGOTTEN because none would remain to talk about him. However, that doesn't change the FACT that there COULD be a God/creator/omnipotent being. Just because you can't physically see something doesn't mean it isn't there. We don't see the wind blow, but we know it's there. We feel it's presense and it has a real, lasting effect on the world around us.

I once heard that God isn't there to explain to us why things happen. Rather he is there to help us when they do. His promise is that he will be there for his followers through thick and thin, hell or high water. I personally feel he is given too much credit, but that's my perogative. You ask for proof that God exists and every Christian you encounter will ask you for proof that he doesn't. As of right now, neither of those questions can be answered. That is why religion is a FAITH based affair.

Lastly, worship cannot come without faith. No one places faith in the Bible period. People place faith in God.

i agree no bible no christian god, but there will always be that what if in ones mind... but i disagree that you think you don't have faith in your bible... christians use it to prove christianity all the time you would have to have faith in the scripture to believe it :goodjob: ; which ultimately is gods word if your christian anyway so hence you have faith in god.
05-26-2006, 12:37 PM
4dmin

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Don't relics usually have to be one of a kind? Seeing as how the cross is the most well known shape on Earth and the Bible is the most printed and revised book in human history wouldn't that make them a tool of sorts. Besides, the Bible has something to offer to those willing to read it and accept it's teachings. Relics(i.e. meteors, obelisks, statues and shit)offer nothing in the way of enlightenment.

NO relics do not neccesarrily have to be one of a kind. a relic is just something that can last the sands of time... the bible is such. there are many religous artifacts(relics) which can be seen/found all over the world and not all are christian... and they do offer enlightenment, if they didn't they would of been disregarded centuries ago and wouldn't be relics today. to say the bible isn't a relic is to discredit the age/history of it.
05-26-2006, 12:42 PM
Xan

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Originally Posted by admin

i agree no bible no christian god, but there will always be that what if in ones mind... but i disagree that you think you don't have faith in your bible... christians use it to prove christianity all the time you would have to have faith in the scripture to believe it :goodjob: ; which ultimately is gods word if your christian anyway so hence you have faith in god.

I'm not a christian though. I believe in a greater being, but that's it. Everything I have I have gotten myself. I live my life according to my terms. The Bible and the commandments are too restrictive for my tastes. That's beside the point though. You just said that having faith in a Bible and having faith in what it says are the same thing when they aren't. Christians have faith in the scripture because it is supposedly handed down by their creator. Having faith in the scriptures written by God is the same as having faith in God himself. The scriptures no matter how you present them will always represent the written word of God. You can't take a relic(lets say that meteor that Muslims worship) and replace it with a marshmallow and call it the same.
05-26-2006, 12:53 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by Xan

I'm not a christian though. I believe in a greater being, but that's it. Everything I have I have gotten myself. I live my life according to my terms. The Bible and the commandments are too restrictive for my tastes. That's beside the point though..

i never said you were christian i replied to your post.

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You just said that having faith in a Bible and having faith in what it says are the same thing when they aren't. Christians have faith in the scripture because it is supposedly handed down by their creator. Having faith in the scriptures written by God is the same as having faith in God himself. The scriptures no matter how you present them will always represent the written word of God.

i'm confused... the bible is scripture if you dont' have faith in the bible then you dont have faith in the scripture inside of the bible. which are the word of god. you need to read the definition of FAITH. we've already agreed w/o the bible you would have no christian faith... ok so if you don't have faith in the bible then you don't have faith. that isn't hard to comprehend.

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You can't take a relic(lets say that meteor that Muslims worship) and replace it with a marshmallow and call it the same

umm please expand that doesn't make sense.... no one took the bible and replace it w/ a "marshmallow" and said here is your faith.
05-26-2006, 12:55 PM
Xan

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Originally Posted by admin

NO relics do not neccesarrily have to be one of a kind. a relic is just something that can last the sands of time... the bible is such. there are many religous artifacts(relics) which can be seen/found all over the world and not all are christian... and they do offer enlightenment, if they didn't they would of been disregarded centuries ago and wouldn't be relics today. to say the bible isn't a relic is to discredit the age/history of it.

I have to disagree with you. Relics in a religious sense are meant to be one of a kind. The original written Bible could be a relic. However, as I said before worship of a relic requires faith in the relic itself. Muslims bow down and pray to a meteor. Buddhists bow down and pray to a statue. Christians bow down and pray to God. True Christians are meant to place faith in God and his word not the format it comes in. True Christians are meant to pay homage to God not the Bible.
05-26-2006, 12:59 PM
Xan

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Originally Posted by admin

i never said you were christian i replied to your post.

i'm confused... the bible is scripture if you dont' have faith in the bible then you dont have faith in the scripture inside of the bible. which are the word of god. you need to read the definition of FAITH. we've already agreed w/o the bible you would have no christian faith... ok so if you don't have faith in the bible then you don't have faith. that isn't hard to comprehend.

umm please expand that doesn't make sense.... no one took the bible and replace it w/ a "marshmallow" and said here is your faith.

I'm sorry. The way you worded it sounded like you assumed I was Christian.
The point I was trying to make with my analogy is that you can't really idolize words.
05-26-2006, 01:02 PM
Xan

Having faith in the teachings of the Bible and Idolizing the book itself aren't the same thing.
05-26-2006, 01:05 PM
{X}Echo419

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Originally Posted by admin

i guess if you have a peanut for brain maybe... but kinda like a child growing up in a room w/ no windows who is made to think a rat is a cat and a cat a rat... :goodjob:

ya sounds crazy doesn't it, but the mind is easy to manipulate. black can be white all depends on the perspective.

sensitive? hmmm
05-26-2006, 01:08 PM
4dmin
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Originally Posted by Xan

I have to disagree with you. Relics in a religious sense are meant to be one of a kind. The original written Bible could be a relic. However, as I said before worship of a relic requires faith in the relic itself. Muslims bow down and pray to a meteor. Buddhists bow down and pray to a statue. Christians bow down and pray to God. True Christians are meant to place faith in God and his word not the format it comes in. True Christians are meant to pay homage to God not the Bible.

NOPE. see you are mistaking worship and faith. those are two different concepts. i never said you have to worship the bible to believe it... you don't bow down to it, but you do have to have faith in the scripture and the text to believe it. i don't see how you can think otherwise... i can pull up a million an 1 post on how "you just have to have faith"... what is one refereing too? the scripture that is in the bible. you believe the text there for you have faith in it.
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Something that has survived the passage of time, especially an object or custom whose original culture has disappeared: “Corporal punishment was a relic of barbarism” (Cyril Connolly).
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^ the bible fits every single one of those... it is nothing but passed on literature of the authors themselves inspired by GOD. that is a relic to which you/i have a copy of today.
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Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief. See Synonyms at trust.
Loyalty to a person or thing; allegiance: keeping faith with one's supporters.
often Faith Christianity. The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.
The body of dogma of a religion: the Muslim faith.
A set of principles or beliefs.
again you have to have faith in the bible to believe what is in it.
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i never said you have to worship the bible, but here you go... can you yes? is it done yes.
05-26-2006, 01:10 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by Xan

Having faith in the teachings of the Bible and Idolizing the book itself aren't the same thing.

I NEVER SAID WORSHIP OR IDOLIZING THE BIBLE. YOU AND METALMAN HAVE SAID THAT. IF YOUR GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION PLEASE QUOTE ME ON THE CURRENT TOPIC AND NOT PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

Thanx :goodjob:

and Yes those are to different things.
05-26-2006, 01:12 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by {X}Echo419

sensitive? hmmm

nope maybe you should try joing discussions then posting "THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION" :goodjob:
05-26-2006, 01:14 PM
{X}Echo419

O-Snap! I don't care
05-26-2006, 01:16 PM
babygurl

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Originally Posted by admin

nope maybe you should try joinINg discussions then posting "THIS IS A DUMB QUESTION" :goodjob:

fixed it for ya! LOL
05-26-2006, 01:17 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by {X}Echo419

O-Snap! I don't care

then don't be surprised by ones replys :goodjob:
05-26-2006, 01:37 PM
metalman

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Originally Posted by Xan

True Christians are meant to pay homage to God not the Bible.

BINGO!!! +100 :goodjob:
05-26-2006, 01:50 PM
{X}Echo419

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Originally Posted by admin

then don't be surprised by ones replys :goodjob:

who said I was suprised?

you're as predictable as the Braves in the playoffs
05-26-2006, 01:58 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by {X}Echo419

who said I was suprised?

you're as predictable as the Braves in the playoffs

ok. well thanx for playing. :goodjob:
05-26-2006, 03:29 PM
biblethumper

Oh goodness lol
05-26-2006, 03:35 PM
MajinB

ok lets take a look back in history when it matters.
god gives moses the 10 commandments. and the torah.(old testament for the christians) fast forward a few million years lol- jesus dies and is "reborn" christians branch off from hebrews, and boom the shit hits the fan. heres why. every single torah in the world that is in hebrew is IDENTICAL. there are too many english interpretations of the christian bible. not bashing christianity at all BTW. anyway, so yes, there is god before the bible cause he gave the damn bible, or torah, or quaran to the people that worship god. simple
05-26-2006, 03:36 PM
biblethumper

I agree that there are too many interpretations. But I think it was done to make it a lil easier for us to understand
05-26-2006, 03:57 PM
Xan

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Originally Posted by admin

I NEVER SAID WORSHIP OR IDOLIZING THE BIBLE. YOU AND METALMAN HAVE SAID THAT. IF YOUR GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION PLEASE QUOTE ME ON THE CURRENT TOPIC AND NOT PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.

Thanx :goodjob:

and Yes those are to different things.

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Originally Posted by metalman
True. However...
Do Christians as (defined by the Bible) worship either the Bible or relics? No.
Even bowing to an angel is wrong let alone some museum relic or book. Do true Christians accept and following the counsel/instruction of Bible? Yes.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me" - The Creator

Admin's response---->whether you like to believe it or not Christians do worship the Bible. don't people bow their head to pray? yes.

I know this was said in a different thread, but since this thread was started because of it I feel it's relevant. Now that your conclusion agrees with what MetalMan and myself have been saying over and over again in regards to Christians idolizing the Bible I'll stop referring to it.

As for the Bible being a relic. It isn't. Relics pass the test of time. the Bible isn't valued for it's age. The scriptures aren't valued for their age. They are valued for the ensight they grant. The culture they thrive in is right here. The Bible has been written, re-written, edited, re-edited, versioned, re-versioned, translated, re-translated. It's still going on today. The Bible is a means to reaching God. The Bible isn't God himself.

Everyone have a great weekend and be safe. Happy labor day...now everyone call in sick.:)
05-26-2006, 04:10 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by Xan

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Originally Posted by metalman
True. However...
Do Christians as (defined by the Bible) worship either the Bible or relics? No.
Even bowing to an angel is wrong let alone some museum relic or book. Do true Christians accept and following the counsel/instruction of Bible? Yes.

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me" - The Creator

Admin's response---->whether you like to believe it or not Christians do worship the Bible. don't people bow their head to pray? yes.

I know this was said in a different thread, but since this thread was started because of it I feel it's relevant. Now that your conclusion agrees with what MetalMan and myself have been saying over and over again in regards to Christians idolizing the Bible I'll stop referring to it.

As for the Bible being a relic. It isn't. Relics pass the test of time. the Bible isn't valued for it's age. The scriptures aren't valued for their age. They are valued for the ensight they grant. The culture they thrive in is right here. The Bible has been written, re-written, edited, re-edited, versioned, re-versioned, translated, re-translated. It's still going on today. The Bible is a means to reaching God. The Bible isn't God himself.

Everyone have a great weekend and be safe. Happy labor day...now everyone call in sick.:)

its isn't relevant... b/c what i said is a response to his blanket statment that CHRISTIANS DO NOT, that would be assuming he knows all christians, people can worship the bible so that isn't true. Many do it today. They kill in the name of the bible. They idolize it.

So back on topic. Again you and metalman both are twisting words to suit your post in this thread. either answer the thread as started or don't post. its fucking dumb to go round and round about a question you refuse to answer. i started a new topic for that reason. if you won't answer the question w/o twisting the truth then dont' post. its that simple.
05-26-2006, 05:41 PM
metalman

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Originally Posted by Xan

As for the Bible being a relic. It isn't. Relics pass the test of time. the Bible isn't valued for it's age. The scriptures aren't valued for their age. They are valued for the ensight they grant.

Admin doesnt grasp that concept Xan. He's a bright guy but apparantly that would conflict with his preferd view of christianity so he rejects it in favor of his prefered opinion. ;)

Good try though. :goodjob:
05-26-2006, 06:50 PM
Xan

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Originally Posted by admin

its isn't relevant... b/c what i said is a response to his blanket statment that CHRISTIANS DO NOT, that would be assuming he knows all christians, people can worship the bible so that isn't true. Many do it today. They kill in the name of the bible. They idolize it.

So back on topic. Again you and metalman both are twisting words to suit your post in this thread. either answer the thread as started or don't post. its fucking dumb to go round and round about a question you refuse to answer. i started a new topic for that reason. if you won't answer the question w/o twisting the truth then dont' post. its that simple.

Once again. People kill in the name of God. Can you point out one instance where someone has killed in the name of the Bible or the Koran or any other religious scripture for that matter? If so I'll shut the hell up. MetalMan's "blanket statement" was referring to christianity as a religion. He was referring to what is stated in the Bible. Of course he doesn't know all Christians, but from how you worded it I'm assuming you do. How am I twisting words? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU POSTED. VERBATIM. PERIOD. Seeing as how this is a debate why would I support your argument? Especially when you are wrong. You're the only one twisting words here my friend. MetalMan NEVER said that ALL Christians don't "idolize" the Bible. He said that the Bible's teachings forbid it. He actually agreed with you that some "lost" Christians will idolize the Bible and stick it on a pedistal and pray to it, the book. Praying for the book to solve their problems. MetalMan stated that it is the wrong way and according to the scriptures found in the Bible it is. Like you stated earlier. Having faith in it and worshiping it aren't the same. Maybe you should go ask your neighbors if they pray to a book to solve their problems or if they pray to a God.
05-26-2006, 10:21 PM
4dmin

i guess i'm still confused on the RELIC idea, me and the southern baptist convention as well please see new thread.
05-26-2006, 10:34 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by Xan

Once again. People kill in the name of God. Can you point out one instance where someone has killed in the name of the Bible or the Koran or any other religious scripture for that matter? If so I'll shut the hell up.

if you kill in the name of the god you kill in the name of which you hold faith in, we have already agreed NO BIBLE NO GOD, NO GOD NO FAITH... faith + bible = god ... they all go hand and hand.

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MetalMan's "blanket statement" was referring to christianity as a religion. He was referring to what is stated in the Bible. Of course he doesn't know all Christians, but from how you worded it I'm assuming you do. How am I twisting words? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU POSTED. VERBATIM. PERIOD. Seeing as how this is a debate why would I support your argument?

what is stated in the bible isn't neccesarilly practiced that is obviously why i posted what i did. and w/ current findings i'm obviously not far off.

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He actually agreed with you that some "lost" Christians will idolize the Bible and stick it on a pedistal and pray to it, the book.

please quote and cite b/c obviously i missed that on the SPEAR thread you keep quoting from in the meantime it would be nice to get back on topic if you want to discuss further on that topic you need to post in that topic.

oh again please read the RELIC thread i posted since i'm so confused and have no idea what i'm talking about... :goodjob:
05-26-2006, 11:00 PM
Xan

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Originally Posted by admin

if you kill in the name of the god you kill in the name of which you hold faith in, we have already agreed NO BIBLE NO GOD, NO GOD NO FAITH... faith + bible = god ... they all go hand and hand.

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please quote and cite b/c obviously i missed that on the SPEAR thread you keep quoting from in the meantime it would be nice to get back on topic if you want to discuss further on that topic you need to post in that topic.

oh again please read the RELIC thread i posted since i'm so confused and have no idea what i'm talking about... :goodjob:

Did you even read the link you posted in your relic thread?

This is the opening sentence. This is the author of said article disagreeing with the decision made by the Baptist Commission to make the Bible a "Revered Relic"---->I have noticed the reverence some hold for certain icons and relics. I am curious and respectful, but I do not establish my theology or state my faith on reverence for relics.

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<SPAN style="mso-fareast-font-family: 'MS Mincho'">This is the author describing relics as they are seen from a religious standpoint----->The believer approaches a sacred relic with a magical expectancy that it is the repository of spiritual insight and miraculous powers. Reminds me of Indiana Jones's encounter with the Hebrew Ark of the Covenant or the Holy Grail of Christ. Such a magical reverence for relics makes for exciting entertainment but very poor theology.
05-27-2006, 01:22 AM
ShooterMcGavin

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Originally Posted by admin

i guess if you have a peanut for brain maybe... but kinda like a child growing up in a room w/ no windows who is made to think a rat is a cat and a cat a rat... :goodjob:

ya sounds crazy doesn't it, but the mind is easy to manipulate. black can be white all depends on the perspective.

not sure about perspective so much as words, language, communication/interpretation.....i mean, what is BLACK, it is a word we've been taught since the day we were born that ties to a color our brain processes, if we were taught from birth that "black" was in fact "white" (language wise), then that's how we'd always know it as. make sense?
05-27-2006, 04:12 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by Xan

Did you even read the link you posted in your relic thread?

yes the author does state that i did read it and he also stated as i said it is seen as a relic and why... his personal thoughts make no difference in this thread it is just one point of view but for th Southern Baptist Convention which is made up of more then one to say that... umm ya.

question... since you are still debating the bible isn't a relic even though now i have shown you christians who say it is... you believe christians don't think the bible hold any power? its the word of god. ever watch late night tv on sat... there is a billion and one faith healers using gods words (bible) and the holy spirit to cure everything from cancer to jock itch... please explain this since its not a relic?

in the true sense your physical bible you pick up at borders today isn't a relic, but the scriptures are contained in it. :goodjob:
05-27-2006, 04:16 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by absoludely

not sure about perspective so much as words, language, communication/interpretation.....i mean, what is BLACK, it is a word we've been taught since the day we were born that ties to a color our brain processes, if we were taught from birth that "black" was in fact "white" (language wise), then that's how we'd always know it as. make sense?

exactly... but you didn't know black until you were taught it... get my drift. same w/ god. thats why there are many names for god/jesus.. if the christian god was an instinct inside of us then everyone would know of him... there are people all over the world who have no idea who this GOD/JESUS guy is. :goodjob:
05-27-2006, 04:23 PM
knee_grow

Christians have to be told what to think and how to act. That's why the bible exists. Written by idiots for idiots. No better than Scientologists or Mormons.
05-27-2006, 06:13 PM
man

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Originally Posted by knee_grow

Christians have to be told what to think and how to act. That's why the bible exists. Written by idiots for idiots. No better than Scientologists or Mormons.

LOL!!! Right... I must have forgot that I'm dumb (I didn't know MIT accepted dumb people :dunno: )
05-28-2006, 12:12 AM
metalman

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Originally Posted by admin

question... since you are still debating the bible isn't a relic even though now i have shown you christians who say it is... you believe christians don't think the bible hold any power? its the word of god. ever watch late night tv on sat... there is a billion and one faith healers using gods words (bible) and the holy spirit to cure everything from cancer to jock itch... please explain this since its not a relic?

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What you have actually shown us REPEATEDLY is that you have very little understanding of the Bible OR true worship, and the difference between "relic worship" and following sound counsel. You have also shown that you are unable to distinguish idolotry from worship that is not.

If youre getting ANY of your info from "faith healers" on TV no wonder youre confused. :rolleyes:

The book called the Bible has NO power. It is made of the same material as a scary Stephen King novel. The INFORMATION in BOTH books has "power", one to entertain, invoke fear, scary thoughts whatever, the other to instruct on the best way to live, whats happened in the past, whats coming in the future, things to do, things to avoid, etc and ultimately save ones soul.

The fact that some phony TV minister tells someone to place their hand on a book and they'll be "saved/healed" etc means NOTHING. Had you studied your Bible you (or anyone) wouldnt be so easily fooled. Therin lies one benefit from Bible study as opposed to Bible disection and disbelief. Therin lies the "power" of INFORMATION.
05-28-2006, 12:39 AM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by fcman

LOL!!! Right... I must have forgot that I'm dumb (I didn't know MIT accepted dumb people :dunno: )

really you go to MIT? wow i didn't know that was a religious school :thinking:
05-28-2006, 12:44 AM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by metalman

What you have actually shown us REPEATEDLY is that you have very little understanding of the Bible OR true worship, and the difference between "relic worship" and following sound counsel. You have also shown that you are unable to distinguish idolotry from worship that is not.

If youre getting ANY of your info from "faith healers" on TV no wonder youre confused. :rolleyes:

hello did i say anything about WORSHIP no so again why are putting words in my mouth... did i say anything about idolotry? no. i called the bible a relic and to further prove it show how people try to give it power which it obviously doesn't have. do i use made for tv for my outlook on christianity? no, but its another prime example to prove my point the bible is a relic and people use it as a relic.

again you are off topic. you want to dicuss WORSHIP start a thread about it. you sat here and posted like an ass on how smart you are yet you won't answer any questions you want to just hear the sound of your own voice by posting up BS that has no place in this discussion. you want to fucking post off topic shit go to the whoreslounge.
05-28-2006, 02:17 AM
man

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Originally Posted by admin

really you go to MIT? wow i didn't know that was a religious school :thinking:

No I don't go to MIT, couldn't come up with the funds, but I was accepted. Who said anything about it being a religious school? This knee_grow guy is just dumb for believing that Christians are people of low intelligence.
05-28-2006, 12:35 PM
metalman

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Originally Posted by admin

i called the bible a relic and to further prove it show how people try to give it power which it obviously doesn't have. do i use made for tv for my outlook on christianity? no, but its another prime example to prove my point the bible is a relic and people use it as a relic.

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And, as I said from the beginning, TRUE Christians do not give the Bible any power it does not have.

I have always acknowledged that some people "idolize" the Bible.

You seem unable to distinguish true Christianity from false. Not surprising given your position and attitude toward the Book that would give you the INFORMATION to know the difference. ;)
05-28-2006, 01:53 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by fcman

No I don't go to MIT, couldn't come up with the funds, but I was accepted. Who said anything about it being a religious school? This knee_grow guy is just dumb for believing that Christians are people of low intelligence.

that sucks MIT is a great school, but the point was b/c your great in math doesn't mean you know jack shit about religion :goodjob: , i don't ask my doctor for car advise ;)
05-28-2006, 01:58 PM
4dmin

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Originally Posted by metalman

And, as I said from the beginning, TRUE Christians do not give the Bible any power it does not have.

I have always acknowledged that some people "idolize" the Bible.

You seem unable to distinguish true Christianity from false. Not surprising given your position and attitude toward the Book that would give you the INFORMATION to know the difference. ;)

well no shit but who are you to say who is TRUE and who isn't you are but just a man as we est... and this topic isn't even about relics... it was about god w/o the bible.

any further post like the previous i'm just going to delete since you obviously aren't reading what i'm posting. you and xan want to keep getting offtopic... start another thread if you want to discuss that. if you have something to add about god w/o the bible say it your way off base in this discussion. :goodjob:
05-28-2006, 05:56 PM
Xan

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Originally Posted by admin

well no shit but who are you to say who is TRUE and who isn't you are but just a man as we est... and this topic isn't even about relics... it was about god w/o the bible.

any further post like the previous i'm just going to delete since you obviously aren't reading what i'm posting. you and xan want to keep getting offtopic... start another thread if you want to discuss that. if you have something to add about god w/o the bible say it your way off base in this discussion. :goodjob:

I'm going to agree with you. Sorry for whoring your thread.

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