Military

[babygurl]

i was watching saving private ryan the other day. you knwo barry pepper (the sniper) right before he shoots the germans in the last scene he would say something to god. and before he shoots the sniper that shot vin deisel he says something like god give me strength.

anyways my point is what do you all (everyone not just christians) feel about this? like asking god for help to kill people

In my Opinon...its wrong...in a way its testing god...Its almost as stupid as saying "God, If I go slam my car into a wall at 100mph protect me, let me come out if it in one piece" IF you test someone they usually back off....I say God would do the same....

Also its kinda like in that movie Titanic...Where I think the designer of the ship said " God himself couldnt sink it himself" Gee what happened then...it sank !

Ok maybe someone else has a better response then me!

[ShooterMcGavin]

^ ummm, sorry but i don't think GOD allows you to commit a sin and justifiable... well i guess everything is open to interpetation as far as the bible goes but i dont' think that is anywhere in there.

either way, its a sin.

god does allow u to commit a sin as he has given you free will. and in his eyes, a sin is a sin, doesn't matter if u killed someone or stole a $0.05 piece of candy.

but on the other hand, god is obviously "ok" with ppl sinning, i mean who out there has not sinned in the eyes of god? it's why jesus died on the christ so all can be forgiven for their sins right?

so to sum it up, if u are protecting ur country and defending urself and kill someone while doin it, u have sinned, but god will grant u forgiveness if u ask it of him.

[4dmin]

god does allow u to commit a sin as he has given you free will. and in his eyes, a sin is a sin, doesn't matter if u killed someone or stole a $0.05 piece of candy.

but on the other hand, god is obviously "ok" with ppl sinning, i mean who out there has not sinned in the eyes of god? it's why jesus died on the christ so all can be forgiven for their sins right?

so to sum it up, if u are protecting ur country and defending urself and kill someone while doin it, u have sinned, but god will grant u forgiveness if u ask it of him.

god did give you free will, but i said "allow and justifiable"... god does not justify your sinning... its not like god took the day off and said its ok, or a cliff note in the bible killing is a sin *except in war* :jerkit:

the problem i see here is the lack of true forgiveness... i don't think military men are truely sorry for what they have done, i highly doubt bush prays ever night the deaths that have been tolled on his orders.

i'm not christian so it doesn't matter to me either way, me personally EYE FOR EYE and KILL OR BE KILLED... but i do think if your going to christian you should try to make an example of yourself and not put yourself in the position to sin. to me going in the military to go to war is no worse then going to a whore house, its ok if i sin after i fuck the prostitute b/c god gave me free will. i call that trying to beat the system at its own game. i'm sorry but even god can see the flaws in this.

[{X}Echo419]

I Being a soldier AND a christian, I find it perfectly fine to ask God for power to commit a sin. Just think for a moment, If God didn't want me to do this He would stop me. Whether from death or my weapon jamming. I believe what I'm doing is justifible and if it isn't I'm ready to go Hell, as long as my wife is safe. I protect lives by ending lives, And when your at war you really don't think about religion, except praying.


- Private 1st Class Cato, 517th Infantry Division

don't worry about what you're doing. just keep you and your brothers over there safe.

[ShooterMcGavin]

god did give you free will, but i said "allow and justifiable"... god does not justify your sinning... its not like god took the day off and said its ok, or a cliff note in the bible killing is a sin *except in war* :jerkit:

the problem i see here is the lack of true forgiveness... i don't think military men are truely sorry for what they have done, i highly doubt bush prays ever night the deaths that have been tolled on his orders.

i'm not christian so it doesn't matter to me either way, me personally EYE FOR EYE and KILL OR BE KILLED... but i do think if your going to christian you should try to make an example of yourself and not put yourself in the position to sin. to me going in the military to go to war is no worse then going to a whore house, its ok if i sin after i fuck the prostitute b/c god gave me free will. i call that trying to beat the system at its own game. i'm sorry but even god can see the flaws in this.

i wasn't arguing that it was justified, just saying everyone is given a choice by god.

and as far as the part about beating the system at its own game, i couldn't agree more. however, true christians are supposed to know better than that.

in my personal opinion i think religion as a whole can get pretty fucked up, i mean just look at the crusades and how many were killed in the name of christianity.