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    Default Dreadlocks in church?

    lol I remember in high school I'd go to church with my mom and people would give me the craziest looks. I'm a white kids with long blonde dreadlocks and I would hear things like "That's dirty" "Christians shouldn't look like that" Blah Blah.

    I think Jesus had them. Its a fact John the baptist had them and in the bible Soloman had 7 locks that he got his power from. How could that be ignored?Its a spiritual experience for many with locks in EVERY major religion except the modern Christians, muslims, and some others that have been exposed to the properness of the world reject old customs like this.


    Dreadlocks have been around since the dawn of time. Ancient Egyptians wore them, ancient Asian emperor's wore them, cavemen wore them, even John the Baptist and Samson wore them.

    The first writing we have about dreadlocks is in the Veda scriptures of India, the earliest piece is dated to 1800 BC. But many peoples and tribes have worn dreadlocks the Germanic tribes, the Greeks,Samson and other Nazorites, John the Baptist, the Pacific peoples, and the Naga Indians also wore dreadlocks. King Tut himself had dreadlocks, and they are still intact to this day. The Mau Mau tribe wore dreadlocks to intimidate the colonizers of Kenya in east Africa. Even Caesar claimed that the Celts wore dreadlocks by describing them as having "hair like snakes".
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    "They shall not make baldness upon their head, neither shall they shave off the corner of their beard, nor make any cuttings in their flesh." -- Leviticus 21:5.

    Numbers 6:5
    All the days of the vow of his separation there shall be no razor come upon his head until the days be fulfilled in which he separateth himself unto the Lord, he shall be holy and shall the locks of the hair of his head grow.

    Song of Solomon 5:11
    His head is as the most fine gold. His locks are bushy and black as a raven.

    I'm not rastafarian or anything, I just get dreads every couple of years and let them grow and grow. In fact one the six commandments of rasta is hate the evil white man and punish him for what he's done. lol


    I wondered what you guys thought/cared about it.

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    dont care, thats judgemental shit
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    ive always wondered how you get dreadlocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Antonov
    ive always wondered how you get dreadlocks?
    Lots of different ways. I do it the neglect method with is basically dont comb/wash.


    Most of you guys that are skeptical about religion it seems didn't grow up in the church or with parents that made you get involved I've noticed. I doubt there will be much input on this thread thats worth a shit anyway due to the lack of knowledge on rastafari,judaism, and the ancient Hebrews that this came out of.

    Do we have some real rastas on here? I'd love to talk the bible with one of you. Though you guys (the extreme) are to hate white people and punish them.Replacing the word Israel with black people my peculiar creation and the likes always startled me.

    Anyway.

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    you have to lock your hair...it's a process. I can't stand it when my hair touches my ears, let alone growing it out to a lockable length.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeyo07
    you have to lock your hair...it's a process. I can't stand it when my hair touches my ears, let alone growing it out to a lockable length.
    Awesome.

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    used to work with a guy who was rastafarian. Nice guy, answered a lot of questions for me.


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    Trying to get input in the thread not people asking me why I have them.


    Rastas do not believe in the new testament, they only believe in the old testament and the torah. They believe they are the original jews, descendants of David and Queen of Sheba.

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    So not anyone can become rastafarian?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeyo07
    So not anyone can become rastafarian?
    Nope. Only black people that believe they are the original hebrews.

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    what if they're wrong about believing that they're original hebrews....then what?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeyo07
    what if they're wrong about believing that they're original hebrews....then what?
    What if is religion is wrong?

    Thats the point, they have alot of references and they have many connections to it and they believe it.

    Read Rastafari: Roots and Ideology by Barry Chevannes.

    Its good and will have some more insight for you. If you look into it more it will interest you I promise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeyo07
    what if they're wrong about believing that they're original hebrews....then what?
    Then YOU would not have to worry about it lol
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    i'm not a rasta, but my dad was a rastafarian and several of my aunts and uncles currently are...so i've been exposed to the culture all my life, and and am very familiar with the teachings...

    as far as the whole link of rastafari, or really Haile Selassie (who the rastas respect as a prophet or as Christ in his Kingly Character, depending on which sect you talk to) to Solomon, the Queen of Sheba and the Hebrews, check out a book called the Kebra Negast (sp). It explains how Solomon married the Queen of Sheba and the Ark of the Covenant was moved to Eithiopia from Israel before Jerusalem was sacked. Haile Selassie, if I recall correctly, is supposed to be the 225th descendant of Solomon. And the Ark supposedly still resides at some church in Eithiopia...

    now there's also a political/revolutionary component to the origins of rasta as well. There's a book called Rasta and Resistance that goes into more detail about that. But basically, the first rastas were Jamaican revolutionary types fighting at the time against colonialism (this was an issue throughout the Caribbean).

    as 1439/2000 mentioned, during the same time frame the Mau Maus in Kenya, led by Jomo Kenyatta, were fighting a similar struggle, and they wore dreadlocks, so the Jamaicans identified with that and emulated it as well. They revered the teachings of Marcus Garvey, founder of the UNIA in the early 1900s, who said "look to the east for the coming of a black king", among numerous other things. But Marcus Garvey is a whole different topic by himself, lol, so that's all i'll say about him. Anyways that's how the whole anti-white "punish the white man oppressor" business factors in. Although nowadays not all rastas are as...militant...lol.

    So this is how Haile Selassie dropped in the picture . His original name was actually Prince Ras Tafari (LOL, see the connection) and he took the title Haile Selassie (which means Power of Trinity) when he was coronated. Once he took the throne, this was seen as the fulfillment of Garvey's prophecy and Selassie achieved this godlike status. The funny thing is, Selassie wasn't a rasta but an ethiopian orthodox christian. But then I guess Jesus was a Jew, not a christian, so...

    There's several sects of rastafarianism now...you have the Bobo Dreads, Nyahbingi, Twelve Tribes...just to name a few. some rastas do believe in the entire bible, and most accept the old testament and revelation. there are some rastas who believe rastafarianism is more of a lifestyle than a religion, so you can believe whatever you want as long as you abide by the basic teachings.

    bottom line, you are right about Jesus, Moses, John the Baptist and the rest taking the Nazirite vow, so the people in your church have no grounds to be hating on you. as you said, growing locks is supposed to symbolise a special relationship with God and is a spiritual experience...

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    ha - like Hulud said - thats just judemental/gossip crap


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    if I remember correctly, the answer I got for the locks was it was symbolic of the strength it gave samson.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Romeyo07
    if I remember correctly, the answer I got for the locks was it was symbolic of the strength it gave samson.
    yeah...well that too. i mean, rastas consider themselves nazirites just like samson was. i was just giving the historical/political influence on the dreadlocks thing as well.

    lol...a lot of rastas i have come across haven't even read the books i mentioned. so they might not even be aware of the revolutionary/anti-colonial roots of their religion/lifestyle. but it is what it is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by trini_gsr
    yeah...well that too. i mean, rastas consider themselves nazirites just like samson was. i was just giving the historical/political influence on the dreadlocks thing as well.

    lol...a lot of rastas i have come across haven't even read the books i mentioned. so they might not even be aware of the revolutionary/anti-colonial roots of their religion/lifestyle. but it is what it is...
    +1 for all the insight you put in the thread.

    Yeah from what I've heard from people in the islands the TRUE rastas have to know the bible (old testament) inside and out, and they are always witnessing to people too.

    Some do take it as a lifestyle that just partake in the ganja and have locks. lol

    But the more I read on it, the more intrigued I am. Alot of similarities and ties to Christianity that you cannot ignore are there, and then some parts they just take out of proportion I think.

    The book of Leviticus, is where they get most of the hair things but they also replace "Israel" with "black people my most peculiar devine creation"

    I'm white and have had dreadlocks so people assume I'm rastafarian, which is a religion that came out of oppressed black peoples desire to punish the evil white man for his sins. lol Yeah I'm a member of that group. Where do I sign up?

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    me being puertorican, I have some african in my blood from my mom's dad's side. The rest is italian and spaniard. So if I were to manage to track down and find my liniage to find that I have that blood in me, would I be eligable?


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    samson shook his dreds as he leaned and rocked wit it

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