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    Long-Awaited Medical Study Questions the Power of Prayer
    By BENEDICT CAREY
    Published: March 31, 2006


    Prayers offered by strangers had no effect on the recovery of people who were undergoing heart surgery, a large and long-awaited study has found.

    And patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate of post-operative complications like abnormal heart rhythms, perhaps because of the expectations the prayers created, the researchers suggested.

    Because it is the most scientifically rigorous investigation of whether prayer can heal illness, the study, begun almost a decade ago and involving more than 1,800 patients, has for years been the subject of speculation.

    The question has been a contentious one among researchers. Proponents have argued that prayer is perhaps the most deeply human response to disease, and that it may relieve suffering by some mechanism that is not yet understood. Skeptics have contended that studying prayer is a waste of money and that it presupposes supernatural intervention, putting it by definition beyond the reach of science.

    At least 10 studies of the effects of prayer have been carried out in the last six years, with mixed results. The new study was intended to overcome flaws in the earlier investigations. The report was scheduled to appear in The American Heart Journal next week, but the journal's publisher released it online yesterday.

    In a hurriedly convened news conference, the study's authors, led by Dr. Herbert Benson, a cardiologist and director of the Mind/Body Medical Institute near Boston, said that the findings were not the last word on the effects of so-called intercessory prayer. But the results, they said, raised questions about how and whether patients should be told that prayers were being offered for them.

    "One conclusion from this is that the role of awareness of prayer should be studied further," said Dr. Charles Bethea, a cardiologist at Integris Baptist Medical Center in Oklahoma City and a co-author of the study.

    Other experts said the study underscored the question of whether prayer was an appropriate subject for scientific study.

    "The problem with studying religion scientifically is that you do violence to the phenomenon by reducing it to basic elements that can be quantified, and that makes for bad science and bad religion," said Dr. Richard Sloan, a professor of behavioral medicine at Columbia and author of a forthcoming book, "Blind Faith: The Unholy Alliance of Religion and Medicine."

    The study cost $2.4 million, and most of the money came from the John Templeton Foundation, which supports research into spirituality. The government has spent more than $2.3 million on prayer research since 2000.

    Dean Marek, a chaplain at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., and a co-author of the report, said the study said nothing about the power of personal prayer or about prayers for family members and friends.

    Working in a large medical center like Mayo, Mr. Marek said, "You hear tons of stories about the power of prayer, and I don't doubt them."

    In the study, the researchers monitored 1,802 patients at six hospitals who received coronary bypass surgery, in which doctors reroute circulation around a clogged vein or artery.

    The patients were broken into three groups. Two were prayed for; the third was not. Half the patients who received the prayers were told that they were being prayed for; half were told that they might or might not receive prayers.

    The researchers asked the members of three congregations — St. Paul's Monastery in St. Paul; the Community of Teresian Carmelites in Worcester, Mass.; and Silent Unity, a Missouri prayer ministry near Kansas City — to deliver the prayers, using the patients' first names and the first initials of their last names.

    The congregations were told that they could pray in their own ways, but they were instructed to include the phrase, "for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications."

    Analyzing complications in the 30 days after the operations, the researchers found no differences between those patients who were prayed for and those who were not.

    In another of the study's findings, a significantly higher number of the patients who knew that they were being prayed for — 59 percent — suffered complications, compared with 51 percent of those who were uncertain. The authors left open the possibility that this was a chance finding. But they said that being aware of the strangers' prayers also may have caused some of the patients a kind of performance anxiety.

    "It may have made them uncertain, wondering am I so sick they had to call in their prayer team?" Dr. Bethea said.

    The study also found that more patients in the uninformed prayer group — 18 percent — suffered major complications, like heart attack or stroke, compared with 13 percent in the group that did not receive prayers. In their report, the researchers suggested that this finding might also be a result of chance.

    One reason the study was so widely anticipated was that it was led by Dr. Benson, who in his work has emphasized the soothing power of personal prayer and meditation.

    At least one earlier study found lower complication rates in patients who received intercessory prayers; others found no difference. A 1997 study at the University of New Mexico, involving 40 alcoholics in rehabilitation, found that the men and women who knew they were being prayed for actually fared worse.

    The new study was rigorously designed to avoid problems like the ones that came up in the earlier studies. But experts said the study could not overcome perhaps the largest obstacle to prayer study: the unknown amount of prayer each person received from friends, families, and congregations around the world who pray daily for the sick and dying.

    Bob Barth, the spiritual director of Silent Unity, the Missouri prayer ministry, said the findings would not affect the ministry's mission.

    "A person of faith would say that this study is interesting," Mr. Barth said, "but we've been praying a long time and we've seen prayer work, we know it works, and the research on prayer and spirituality is just getting started."

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    The thing many people don't seem to understand about prayer is that the answers can vary. Just like a child asking his dad for candy or a soda or something else, sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes no, sometimes wait. Same with prayer. The answer is not always what is wanted. Many people find that confusing and could develop false expectations if they do not understand the nature of prayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalman
    The thing many people don't seem to understand about prayer is that the answers can vary. Just like a child asking his dad for candy or a soda or something else, sometimes the answer is yes, sometimes no, sometimes wait. Same with prayer. The answer is not always what is wanted. Many people find that confusing and could develop false expectations if they do not understand the nature of prayer.
    Exactly. Expectations don't always match the answers, yet that doesn't mean there wasn't an answer given at all.

    The same thing could be said about medications if you really look at it. There is no silver bullet medication out there for any ailment at all. Does that mean meds don't work at all? There is far more "science" that shows certain medications work on one patient but do absolutely nothing on another. Should be we throw out that medication then???

    It's exactly as we've said in other discussions in this forum before: Sometimes the answers are right there, but people are so bound and determined to argue one side that they refuse to see it.

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    agreed!!!!! metalman would have given u some rep, but i can't....

    Jesus said it right when prayin to God that "This cup be passed by" (meaning He didn't want to be tortured or hung on a cross) BUT He also said "YOUR WILL BE DONE NOT MINE"

    prayers shouldn't be only about what u want, or need... They should be about the will of God. because what you want in your life will never measure up to what God's will is for your life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalman
    The thing many people don't seem to understand about prayer is that the answers can vary.
    Why is it that others don't understand, but you claim to have clarity on all the issues? What makes you the authority on the varieties of prayer? Are there 31 different flavors? Perhaps you should inform the masses that prayers come a la carte? It's comical when religious zealots go into spin mode. Hence, the reason I posted the article. Prayers are tantamount to a meditation mantra. It is a coping mechanism and nothing more.

    So, who determines this mixed bag of prayers? Perhaps Metalman or maybe Billy Graham!? This reminds me of the movie Bruce Almighty. . Who determines which prayers get answered? Maybe priority is given to those who have suffered needlessly? Doesn't work for the tens of thousands of children that die from starvation everyday. Didn't work for the millions who were slain in the name of Christianity by "Christians." But, I'm sure God had a divine plan for all the lives lost.

    God, Satan, alcohol, and drugs all exist b/c of irrational human behavior. They all thrive b/c of the same condition. Do I dare categorize God with all the other evils of this world? Indeed I do.

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    I don't claim to be an "authority" on varieties of prayer or "clarity on all issues" as you put it. Why make any reference to me? Why not stick with the issues and questions at hand.

    I certainly don't have any authority on HOW or WHICH prayers get answered and never even hinted such. I can tell you for certain that answers to prayer occur, theyre just not the always the answers people always want or expect. Thus much confusion about prayer..

    Your view of why God exists is your opinion, youre welcome to it or any opinion you wish to hold. Don't let the fact that I know and believe differently bother you.

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