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You are incorrect by stating that, i for one believe in Creation then Evolution, they can and have worked hand and hand. I have stated this many times already as my stance on the subject.
Ok Paul....you're gonna have to work a little bit on your grammar on that one because I think I know what you're trying to say but some words are missing somewhere....

Now, the issue at hand is just the life cycle, we are not discussing exsistance, please reread the first post. The life cycle is evolution, it is a process or recreation and evolving into a greater form. Hence the word CYCLE.
I'm going to use some of your wording against you here:

Evolution can also imply that something is evolving into something different and possibly even better. So how is the frog in your example any different or any better by having been egg-tadpole-frog-dead? So how did it "evolve" into anything other than what it was since the beginning? Are frogs now better or smarter than frogs in the middle ages? Only animals that have the equipment to can and do evolve from their predecessors. Rocks now are the same kind of rocks as 1000 years ago (for the most part). How did the sky evolve from the sky of 1000 years ago? How did the dirt evolve from a 1000 years ago?

So how is a frog's life cycle proving that evolution is how all of us beings came about?



waiting would imply i want something... i want and desire nothing, i'm fine with parting my shell and cease to exsist. i plan on become dust as your book describes. but the chance that i am wrong and the CHRISTIAN idea of heaven/god is real would i accept it yes... why b/c who wouldn't???

that would be like Jehova coming down and offering me a slot out of the 144,000 going to heaven and me turning it down. Is anyone that stupid. But that doesn't make me waiting for a sign from Jehova either.
Well, I think you missed my point.

I was pointing out how IF you ever got that one great "sign" that would unequivacly (sp?) change your mind about "God", it would not only be something you were waiting for but also too late.

You can't have it both ways. Live your entire life fully believing there is no "God", only to then die and come to your judgement day and suddenly you're like, "DOOOHHHHH, I guess I believe now that I finally get to "see" you...." Things don't work that way. You have to believe BEFORE you get to that point, and that is EXACTLY the point..........