After 12 pages of this the only person that makes any sense is Vteckid. However I have a question, why does it matter how we got here? Or what bullshit line you believe as to why/how we got here. If Geoff likes the God thing then good for him, if blank like the science thing then YAY. The issue in my mind is we are here, how can we not fuck it up worse than we already have. Or for that matter what the fuck were we think for at least the last 2000 years to fuck it up as bad as we did!