Evolutionist's.....care to discuss?

[bodhi]

Just proved my point, you read what I write and only see what you want to see.

Creationism explains where we came from, as a theory
Evolution doesn't answer where we came from it assumes we were already here. There's no evidence to suggest a primordial soup evolved into complex organisms, and frankly evolutions time frame is so far off with the AG of the earth that alone is hole enough.

Lastly, gravity you can prove exists, you cannot prove how complex organisms began.

You guys honestly ar so close minded it really is pointless to argue

creationism explains where we came from...theoretically

so that alone is enough for you? really... thats all? man it doesnt take much for you

yeah and its not that "we're" close-minded, its that we're NOT retarded

HOW HOW HOW is "intelligent design" the answer to how we became what we are today? we were created by a being in his image, in a short time span...EVERYTHING WAS JUST BOOM...done? gimme a break dude, for someone to accept that as FACT and disbelieve in evolution is - is just wow.

i come back to ia only to see why i left in the first place. if i dont see any reason and logic being posted by others ima peace it the fuck out

[Vteckidd]

creationism explains where we came from...theoretically
i come back to ia only to see why i left in the first place. if i dont see any reason and logic being posted by others ima peace it the fuck out

ok, then good bye? no one really cares about your threats to leave. Participate or leave, none of us cares.

Lastly, there is NO EVIDENCE that suggests we simply appeared by the grace of god, likewise, there is ZERO evidence that we are here because lightning zapped a pool of matter than turned into complex organisms that then evolved into species that gave us man, billions upon billions upon billions of years later. For that to happen , the earth would hae to be FAR OLDER than what evolution THINKS we are. And the fossil records have GIGANTIC holes in them.

Its a very simple concept, there is no concrete infallible evidence we evolved from the big bang or something else, or that god created us in 7 days. they are both BELIEFS, not proven.

Ill ask a simple question then, where did MATTER COME FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE. Matter cannot be created or destroyed. So where did it come from in the first place?
These things you, evolution, and creationism cannot answer.

all you 2 jackasses want to do is berate people into agreeing with you, you want everyone to respect your opinions and beliefs while shitting on everyone elses.

I just choose to have an open mind and say "i dont know"

[bodhi]

ok, then good bye? no one really cares about your threats to leave. Participate or leave, none of us cares.

Lastly, there is NO EVIDENCE that suggests we simply appeared by the grace of god, likewise, there is ZERO evidence that we are here because lightning zapped a pool of matter than turned into complex organisms that then evolved into species that gave us man, billions upon billions upon billions of years later. For that to happen , the earth would hae to be FAR OLDER than what evolution THINKS we are. And the fossil records have GIGANTIC holes in them.

Its a very simple concept, there is no concrete infallible evidence we evolved from the big bang or something else, or that god created us in 7 days. they are both BELIEFS, not proven.

Ill ask a simple question then, where did MATTER COME FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE. Matter cannot be created or destroyed. So where did it come from in the first place?
These things you, evolution, and creationism cannot answer.

all you 2 jackasses want to do is berate people into agreeing with you, you want everyone to respect your opinions and beliefs while shitting on everyone elses.

I just choose to have an open mind and say "i dont know"

... i dont know what to say really, only...




DUH FUCK?!!


bro, i always knew you were kinda slow side and i know rational thinking might be too difficult for you

your question can be simply answered:

matter has existed since before...why do you think it needs a beginning and an end?




a cycle

earth's age has been calculated around 4.5billion...i guess you think that's nothing when it comes to the amount of progression the earth has gone through since then
your style of thinking is rather lame and gay, really. more of agnostic "im on the fence" type of belief. ugh its all too common for me and ive been in so many debates about this thats its boring to me now. i dont even bother with exposing links, books, experiments, differences in terminology, detailed explanations...
my atheist point of view doesnt make me close-minded, son...you do know what that word means rite? you think im close-minded because of what ive posted, but you know so little

i wont bother though

[bu villain]

Its a very simple concept, there is no concrete infallible evidence we evolved from the big bang or something else, or that god created us in 7 days. they are both BELIEFS, not proven.

Just to be clear, the big bang is not a 'fact' and it has nothing to do with evolutionary theory but...
Evidence for big bang: cosmic background radiation, red shifting, elemental distribution just to name a few
Evidence for Creationism: None (what would evidence of creationism even look like)

I believe the theory with the strongest evidence but I know it can change as the evidence changes.

Ill ask a simple question then, where did MATTER COME FROM IN THE FIRST PLACE. Matter cannot be created or destroyed. So where did it come from in the first place?
These things you, evolution, and creationism cannot answer.

I just choose to have an open mind and say "i dont know"

Exactly, "I don't know" is a much more logical answer than "God did it" which is the answer many people in this thread are proposing. My personal goal is for people to be honest with themselves and admit when they don't know. I wish people didn't feel the need to have all the answers to all the questions of life.

[Vteckidd]

Exactly, "I don't know" is a much more logical answer than "God did it" which is the answer many people in this thread are proposing. My personal goal is for people to be honest with themselves and admit when they don't know. I wish people didn't feel the need to have all the answers to all the questions of life.

ive never advocated either stance, ive argued that your buddy needs to acknowledge that despite his best efforts and fact distortion, the ultimate answer is WE DONT KNOW.

You CAN ARGUE creationism with Evolution because evolution is a sideway of saying this is where we came from. Evolution was brought up because Darwin didnt believe in creationism. To act like they dont both try to reference each other is just stupid.

Evolution happens in species, IMO, but not at the scale the Darwinians want us to think.