Evolutionist's.....care to discuss?

[geoff]

Flagellum doesnt throw a wrench in evolution at all. Its about like legs on a human.

Yes that is what flagellum means. But the bacteria flagellum is a complex organism described as a "machine" that could not have existed according to the current evolution model.

No. Have you ever read the book "The Greatest Show on Earth" or "The God Delusion". I would highly recommend reading those.

Well I dont own any of his books so I can't look for quotes but I've seen interviews before and read a couple of his books. I never remember him making any such claim. If you can show where he said evolution disproves God then I will admit I am wrong. No doubt he hates religion and is a proponent of evolution, but I don't believe he ever said evolution proves God doesn't exist because that doesn't make any logical sense.

I too have seen videos of his and his web page. The video " The God Delusion" he goes around with a figurative " Evolution is god" sign, mocks those of faith and uses evolution as a tool to disprove faith/creation. How do I know this? I watched the videos and read his page.

Yes thats what I'm saying. You have a different theory? Supported by physical evidence?

Lemme guess. You think allah snapped his fingers and t-rex's and pterodactyls just....happened, right?

You understand that the Intelligent Design theory is not based on theological reasoning but on the same evidence you use for evolution don't you? If you took the time to research it, you would see it is not so far fetched. They do not claim any certain "God" as the designer. They simply state that a higher intelligence that is not bound by physical law was responsible. Is it really so hard to believe? Abiogenesis is a load of crap and evolution relies completely on "chance". Mathematically speaking the "odds" of evolution are way less than a 50/50% of God.

Escape morality? What do you mean by that?

Men are naturally selfish and do what pleases them most above all else. The " faith " is supposed to be about a strict code of conduct, self sacrifice, and service to fellow man. Not to say that all atheists are "bad" or that all those with some sort of faith are " good". But the atheist world is mostly of those who support gay marriage, abortion, ect....

This is the way I personally view evolution....the theory of evolution provides a convincing story of how life came to be the way that it currently is. There are several different evidences that are used. But, this theory can in no way give a logical explanation of why it came to be nor how it eventually came from absolute nothing.You can not simply ignore these two important aspects by saying they don't matter or they are irrelevant. What if the theory of evolution was said by scientists to have been put in motion by an ancient super alien race? Would that make you agree or disagree with it?

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Yes that is what flagellum means. But the bacteria flagellum is a complex organism described as a "machine" that could not have existed according to the current evolution model.

So then what do you think the difference is between a flagellum on a bacteria and an animal sperm?

I too have seen videos of his and his web page. The video " The God Delusion" he goes around with a figurative " Evolution is god" sign, mocks those of faith and uses evolution as a tool to disprove faith/creation. How do I know this? I watched the videos and read his page.

Did you read the book "The greatest show on earth" and "The God Delusion"?

Men are naturally selfish and do what pleases them most above all else. The " faith " is supposed to be about a strict code of conduct, self sacrifice, and service to fellow man. Not to say that all atheists are "bad" or that all those with some sort of faith are " good". But the atheist world is mostly of those who support gay marriage, abortion, ect....

Yes, human equality is a something a lot of atheists believe in

What if the theory of evolution was said by scientists to have been put in motion by an ancient super alien race? Would that make you agree or disagree with it?

If we had empirical, physical, evidence the earth began by an ancient super alien race, then absolutely. In that same respect, if there was the same evidence that god created everything, then I would believe it as well.

[Benefit]

organisms? cells?

if i dumped 100 alive humans in the ocean, with dna, sperm, cells, organisms

i would not even have bone in 1 million years

[Echonova]

organisms? cells?

if i dumped 100 alive humans in the ocean, with dna, sperm, cells, organisms

i would not even have bone in 1 million years

Science can explain that.