Quote Originally Posted by thesammy View Post
So do even the people who say there is no God agree the bible is largely a historical document?
Historical fictional document, yes. But it does give some insight to the time period it was written

Quote Originally Posted by thesammy
The so called facts that science slhows for there being no God, can show just as much that there is a God. There is a large movement of scientist that has been moving toward what they are now calling "Intelligent Design" because many scientists cannot find enough proof for their evolutionist theory, and are seeing more and more reason to think we have a creator.
There are zero facts that show there is a god. Any scientist that replaces their lack of findings on evolution with intelligent design isn't a credible scientist. Creation and Abiogenesis are entirely separate scientific concepts from evolution. On top of that, there is already proof of evolution and is already generally accepted in the scientific community.

Quote Originally Posted by thesammy
There has never been anything made that did not have a purpose, and we are part of that. Just think about it; The coaster you put your cup on to keep from water stains, the felt that sits under your chair to avoid scratches, the twist ties you use to keep your bread closed. Those things didn't pop out of no where, and they don't just sit around waiting for us to find a use for them. They were created for a specific reason.
All of those things were created by man