My reference to Biblical passages was not to " prove" God but rather to debunk your 15 mary story and " playing God ". I am not trying to convince anyone to believe in Christianity...if you want a solid argument about the issue i am more than willing to meet anyone up and talk in person. The point of this thread is to see what others believe and why. The picture i posted is perfect as it is, it represents humanity in a contained space( our own short life spans ) with limited knowledge of our surroundings( for anyone to say "we" have it all figured out is ridiculous) trying to explain something that is beyond us and that we could not possibly even begin to comprehend in detail. Science likes the explanation of the Big Bang yet it is giving way to more detailed models with even less evidence...i.e. multi-verse theory. The theories that have begun to surface almost seem as if they should belong in a sci-fi blockbuster hit. Science is forever changing and always will as more men do more calculations and we learn more about ourselves and surroundings.