Get out of this thread man. Religion is not a "challenge". It's not like we're fighting you, saying "betcha five bucks you cant convert me". Why do i have to keep educating you on the subject, while you carry yourself to be some all knowing christian? This was a thread for discussion, not for "saving" people. you stated how you feel, you offered (some) light on certain situations. Now, we don't want to go get preached out by the very institutions that cause us to question. I fail to see where we are being "closed up". Just get out of here.