NEW GUN LAWS PASSED!
I am slowly finding new updates daily on updated gun laws. Last week i did see on the news that the new law is that if you are a GFL holder, you can now have firearms in your vehicle on college/university and church/place of worship parking lots in your vehicle.
Anyone know of any other recently passed bills/laws? Please post if you do.
Last edited by DamnDisLaOsBoY; 05-03-2010 at 12:02 PM.
post links to the laws u find if you can.
It was actually on the news.Originally Posted by tdurr
That college thing is a grey line. Since majority of colleges have their own police systems, it's best to just leave it in the car.
yes, so far it is only allowing you to have it in your vehicle.
I have heard that the colleges/universities ect. Have a right to make that decision. Not sure though
Wow...what's next? You can carry assault rifles anywhere you like? What a joke.
why would removing restrictions on law abiding citizens cause issues? If someone wanted to commit a crime such as murder... then a misdeamonr possession charge is not a care to them. These laws only affect ppl who will abide by the law. you are stupid.
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Don't even bother arguing with closed minded dumbasses like him. People don't understand that criminals will carry a gun no matter what the law is. Whether or not it is legal to carry on campus, there will still be those crazy fuckers like the guy at V-Tech shooting people for no reason. These laws that are removing restrictions, are only benefiting us good citizens, NOT the criminals because at the end of the day, the criminal will do whatever the fuck he or she wants, legal or not.
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Actually, I can pretty much carryin mine wherever I want, just like a handgun....
Well that's cool, except the bigger the gun the more people giggle at your insecurity levels. lol
it is not law yet... it must be signed by the governor first. if he doesnt sign it, it becomes law in 40 days from passing. You can now carry in bars with owners permission. churches are still off limits. You can drink at a restaurant while carrying. Only allowed in car on campus. And no more public gathering law. And you have been able to carry assault rifles.... the law also changes your license from a GFL to a GWL and makes it legal to carry knives and other weapons. The law established that the new GWL will be similar to a drivers license in appearance with security provisions like holograms but they wont start issuing those until 2012. So until then it will still be a laminated paper, just with GWL instead of GFL on it. Current GFL's are still valid until expiration.
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Well what about we make strict gun laws and don't allow people to carry outside of their car no matter what and put extreme security forces in public places?
That would be dumb. First of all, the government couldn't afford it. Second, the criminals will still have there guns on them. As previously stated, it doesn't matter if that law would be broken bc there is intention on breaking another.
Ok then lets make a law stating all crimnals shall do as they please also!!! Fuk tard.
We americans have a right its called our 2nd Amendment rights to bare arms. So what if we put a law stating no Dumbass Americans have a right to their opinions either!
pssss... it's the right to BEAR arms.. not to bare our arms and show off our tattoo's.... LOL
And it could have meant we had a right to some (Grizzly) bear arms displayed on top of our fireplaces (LOL sorry.. couldn't resist Family Guy joke.....)
I got free clear tails with my ride.....
How about people just don't carry on school grounds and let the sanctioned police dept do their job....even though they're not always around.
Works for me. What morons don't get it allowing guns to be there can make issues, sane people can snap, especially when they have a gun, it gives a false sense of power. It makes it that much easier.
And last I heard you can carry in a church anyways.
The real question....WHY would you need to carry a gun in a church or at school?
What if one of those people had been carrying at Virginia Tech...do you think all of those people would have been killed or do you think maybe he would have been taken out. Gun laws don't keep criminals from carrying guns, it just lets law abiding citizens carry guns where ever they see fit.
People break into churches and schools and shoot people why wouldn't you want to be able to defend yourself while you are there.
If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun.
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good thing we have a bill of rights, not a bill of needs huh?
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A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.
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i suggest you do a little research. there have been over 20 armed robberies on georgia tech in the last year; with multiple times the victim being shot. even after giving up what the criminal wanted. There were also a handful of shootings and robberies at a church. in fact, a group of men robbed the church during offering and then shot the pastor in the stomach. These are the reasons i want to protect myself. I personally have had to use my firearm before, and after that incident, do not ever want to be defenseless. Anything can happen, anytime. I will start carrying at designated times and areas when thieves and murderers start making appointments.
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with most ppl it takes a situation such as being robbed at gunpoint or shot at to realize it can happen to anyone. And then they take measures to protect themselves. I took a proactive approach and me and a friend are alive today because of it.
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I've been robbed twice at gunpoint. So that's not the case.
you have been robbed twice and gunpoint.... and still think that ppl shouldnt have guns or certain magical areas should be off limits for those licensed by the state to carry a firearm for self defense? What is the difference in carrying at walmart or on campus? That property line turns ordinarily responsible citizens into raging murderers? There is no magical force field that changes who i am or my need to be able to protect myself.
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I wouldn't of pulled the gun out on the guy if there is already a gun pointed at me. Guns can turn SOME "ordinary" people into morons. Not many, but having a powerful tool in your pocket at a time when something serious happens can make someone screw up. There's not just normal non killing and raging murders, you can kill or shoot someone in a fight, you could get robbed and have your gun stolen, then a real criminal has your loaded weapon to do God knows what. YOU may not ever snap, doesn't mean a depressed kid that has never hurt anyone wouldn't when he finds his girlfriend sleeping with another man. I can understand having a gun in your home locked up, but carrying everywhere and looking like a scared little man leads to other issues.
Obviously no matter what people will take guns to kill wherever, but not allowing them wherever COULD lower the chances of other issues with them. Every little bit counts.
If some "depressed kid" wants to go shoot his girlfriend or if someone wants to go shoot up a college campus, they will do it regardless of the gun law... Murder is illegal isn't it?? But that doesn't stop them.... so why would a gun law that is meant to be for licensed carries stop them.?? These gun laws are passed so innocent people can defend themselves and others around them without having to worry about being thrown in jail for 20 yrs for saving lives. They are not passed so criminals can get away with carrying on campus and shoot whoever they please...
Try as I might I just can't remember when the last time you posted something positive or remotely intelligent. You seem to thrive on being the contrarian. Seems to me that you post things just to get your own rocks off instead of actually having an actual thought.
Let me ask you and the rest of the idiots who think that "gun laws" protect us:
1. Go look up the definition of a "CRIMINAL". I'll help you guys out a little. They are by definition NOT going to ABIDE by the LAW. HMMMMMMMMM, so let's waste our damn time drafting "laws" they are going to wipe their ass with in the first place........HMMMMMMMMM, I feel safer already. Since that piece of paper "law" is going to be a magic shield when some thug tries to mug my wife, mother, grandmother, or myself. Yep, I'm gonna hold it up and say, "Hey, you're a FELON and aren't SUPPOSED to carry a gun. Put that gun down young man and leave me alone. The LAW says you can't carry a gun, so you gotta put it down....."Let's see just how far those "gun laws" HELP you when you NEED one to defend yourself. They weren't allowed to carry guns at Columbine or Virginia Tech either. How'd that work out? They both had your great campus police departments.
YOU keep your piece of paper as a magic shield, and I'll gladly keep my piece of steel as mine. Since you've been robbed twice and I NONE......guess yours is better than mine, huh? :jerkit:
2. Logic and solid research shows that criminals are MORE scared of being SHOT than going to jail. Think about that for a minute and let me know HOW restricting LAW ABIDING citizens is going to be a deterrent to "crime"? So you and the rest of the "gun laws work" fools want ONLY the criminals having guns? Gotcha. Great job.
3. It's uneducated people like you that perpetuate the myth that "guns kill people". No, you fools. PEOPLE kill people. The more you keep trying to live in a fantasy world, the more easy targets criminals have to pick from.
4. Wanna know something far more deadlier than a Licensed gun carrying citizen?......I'll give you a hint......you THINK you know about them, and you likely have a POS one.......yep, it's a CAR! CARS kill more people every day than guns ever do or will. Yet we voluntarily hand over the keys to a 3000 pound weapon to our own KIDS when we wouldn't ever dare hand them a handgun to walk out of the house with. How many 16 yr olds die on the roads every year racing and generally acting a fool? How many innocent people are killed by DUI drivers every day? You shoot a gun up in the air in your own backyard and you can get charged with a felony, yet you can be blato drunk and drive and you get a misdemeanor DUI. Which one do you think COULD kill more people? We make 16 yr olds, who don't know shit from shinola, drive through a few cones and around a quiet neighborhood street to deem them "capable" of driving a 3000 lb missile, yet morons like YOU want to worry about ME carrying my gun to dinner?
All of you fools that think that "gun laws" protect you from harm have your head in the sand. To be honest, keep it there. Maybe YOU will make an easier target for criminals than me or my family will. Matter of fact, police can't even protect you unless they show up in time.....and considering how under staffed and over worked they are, then YOU sit there and wait on them to come to your rescue. I'll stick to a more proactive approach.
So how did that ass raping feel, Simon?Try as I might I just can't remember when the last time you posted something positive or remotely intelligent. You seem to thrive on being the contrarian. Seems to me that you post things just to get your own rocks off instead of actually having an actual thought.
Let me ask you and the rest of the idiots who think that "gun laws" protect us:
1. Go look up the definition of a "CRIMINAL". I'll help you guys out a little. They are by definition NOT going to ABIDE by the LAW. HMMMMMMMMM, so let's waste our damn time drafting "laws" they are going to wipe their ass with in the first place........HMMMMMMMMM, I feel safer already. Since that piece of paper "law" is going to be a magic shield when some thug tries to mug my wife, mother, grandmother, or myself. Yep, I'm gonna hold it up and say, "Hey, you're a FELON and aren't SUPPOSED to carry a gun. Put that gun down young man and leave me alone. The LAW says you can't carry a gun, so you gotta put it down....."
YOU keep your piece of paper as a magic shield, and I'll gladly keep my piece of steel as mine. Since you've been robbed twice and I NONE......guess yours is better than mine, huh? :jerkit:
2. Logic and solid research shows that criminals are MORE scared of being SHOT than going to jail. Think about that for a minute and let me know HOW restricting LAW ABIDING citizens is going to be a deterrent to "crime"? So you and the rest of the "gun laws work" fools want ONLY the criminals having guns? Gotcha. Great job.
3. It's uneducated people like you that perpetuate the myth that "guns kill people". No, you fools. PEOPLE kill people. The more you keep trying to live in a fantasy world, the more easy targets criminals have to pick from.
4. Wanna know something far more deadlier than a Licensed gun carrying citizen?......I'll give you a hint......you THINK you know about them, and you likely have a POS one.......yep, it's a CAR! CARS kill more people every day than guns ever do or will. Yet we voluntarily hand over the keys to a 3000 pound weapon to our own KIDS when we wouldn't ever dare hand them a handgun to walk out of the house with. How many 16 yr olds die on the roads every year racing and generally acting a fool? How many innocent people are killed by DUI drivers every day? You shoot a gun up in the air in your own backyard and you can get charged with a felony, yet you can be blato drunk and drive and you get a misdemeanor DUI. Which one do you think COULD kill more people? We make 16 yr olds, who don't know shit from shinola, drive through a few cones and around a quiet neighborhood street to deem them "capable" of driving a 3000 lb missile, yet morons like YOU want to worry about ME carrying my gun to dinner?
All of you fools that think that "gun laws" protect you from harm have your head in the sand. To be honest, keep it there. Maybe YOU will make an easier target for criminals than me or my family will. Matter of fact, police can't even protect you unless they show up in time.....and considering how under staffed and over worked they are, then YOU sit there and wait on them to come to your rescue. I'll stick to a more proactive approach.
I quit replying because of your true level of stupidity. You don't read or listen you just post. I never said if we make laws crime will go down, I'm not even really speaking directly of criminals. Hell if it were up to me we'd be a STRICT country with lots of government power, more security in the streets, and harsher laws.Try as I might I just can't remember when the last time you posted something positive or remotely intelligent. You seem to thrive on being the contrarian. Seems to me that you post things just to get your own rocks off instead of actually having an actual thought.
I'm speaking my opinions.
Let me ask you and the rest of the idiots who think that "gun laws" protect us:
1. Go look up the definition of a "CRIMINAL". I'll help you guys out a little. They are by definition NOT going to ABIDE by the LAW. HMMMMMMMMM, so let's waste our damn time drafting "laws" they are going to wipe their ass with in the first place........HMMMMMMMMM, I feel safer already. Since that piece of paper "law" is going to be a magic shield when some thug tries to mug my wife, mother, grandmother, or myself. Yep, I'm gonna hold it up and say, "Hey, you're a FELON and aren't SUPPOSED to carry a gun. Put that gun down young man and leave me alone. The LAW says you can't carry a gun, so you gotta put it down....."
You obviously don't really read or TRY to listen to what I'm saying.
YOU keep your piece of paper as a magic shield, and I'll gladly keep my piece of steel as mine. Since you've been robbed twice and I NONE......guess yours is better than mine, huh? :jerkit:
I didn't get anything taken. One time it was in my high school and I was pretty sure he wouldn't shoot me plus he was way too close. A simple punch and grab easily fixed that and he got arrested. The other I had nothing to give. lol
2. Logic and solid research shows that criminals are MORE scared of being SHOT than going to jail. Think about that for a minute and let me know HOW restricting LAW ABIDING citizens is going to be a deterrent to "crime"? So you and the rest of the "gun laws work" fools want ONLY the criminals having guns? Gotcha. Great job.
You're retarded. I NEVER said that.
3. It's uneducated people like you that perpetuate the myth that "guns kill people". No, you fools. PEOPLE kill people. The more you keep trying to live in a fantasy world, the more easy targets criminals have to pick from.
I know people kill people. You usually post smart posts on this forum and I have lost all respect, your true stupidity has just shown. I'm not going to bother explaining myself.
4. Wanna know something far more deadlier than a Licensed gun carrying citizen?......I'll give you a hint......you THINK you know about them, and you likely have a POS one.......yep, it's a CAR! CARS kill more people every day than guns ever do or will. Yet we voluntarily hand over the keys to a 3000 pound weapon to our own KIDS when we wouldn't ever dare hand them a handgun to walk out of the house with. How many 16 yr olds die on the roads every year racing and generally acting a fool? How many innocent people are killed by DUI drivers every day? You shoot a gun up in the air in your own backyard and you can get charged with a felony, yet you can be blato drunk and drive and you get a misdemeanor DUI. Which one do you think COULD kill more people? We make 16 yr olds, who don't know shit from shinola, drive through a few cones and around a quiet neighborhood street to deem them "capable" of driving a 3000 lb missile, yet morons like YOU want to worry about ME carrying my gun to dinner?
All of you fools that think that "gun laws" protect you from harm have your head in the sand. To be honest, keep it there. Maybe YOU will make an easier target for criminals than me or my family will. Matter of fact, police can't even protect you unless they show up in time.....and considering how under staffed and over worked they are, then YOU sit there and wait on them to come to your rescue. I'll stick to a more proactive approach.
By opening up the chance to bring guns into other places, this DOES NOT MEAN criminals will say OH IT'S LEGAL TEE HEE, they will do whatever obviously the law does NOT matter. I'm saying people who may be unstable, easy to snap, etc. could snap with a weapon that if it were not on them that wouldn't happen. SIMPLE FUCKING IDEA. It's happened before. Half of you gun fanatics are too blind to see the downside to your little protection device. I agree with carrying a handgun in a car sometimes, on you, in your house, etc. I am not saying guns kill people. All I'm saying is by opening doors like this you can and will see an issue at some point. You know what it's like to have power, if a person gets extremely upset to the point they're boiling and they have a gun, they may pull it out to feel in power. However that person may be a good individual that may NOT have been carrying in that place if it were illegal because they don't want to commit a crime and they aren't a murderer. I don't see how you can't see what I'm saying.
As for laws, they DO help sometimes.
Saying cars kill people and stuff, NO SHIT. I never said guns shoot off themselves and kill people and we should ban any firearms did I? No.
Maybe you just haven't been around the amount of people I have, who knows? You just truly sound blind and flat out stupid with all that complete useless and ignorant bullshit you just wrote.
Actually, you should quit replying to a thread you clearly know nothing about.....but wait......you do that all day everyday just to THINK people give a fuck about YOUR opinion (need I remind you of the "Let Simon (speaking in third person no less, which is uber gay) rate your car thread"? Who gives a flying FUCK what YOU think about anyone's car? Don't you drive a POS Sentra or something? If that's your credentials about "knowing" cars, then you're ill equipped there too. Oh, wait......I know....you're a corner flag guy at a track or something.....THAT makes you all knowing about cars too......:jerkit:
Now, let me take your yet again worthless post and prove to you just how stupid you are. Have seat litte one. Learn something for once.
Back pedal much? Then WHY make a law against guns then? So we can help the Ozone? Save the forests? What other reason would YOU, Simon-the-know-it-law-hater-of-everything, suppose the PURPOSE of "gun laws" be?You don't read or listen you just post. I never said if we make laws crime will go down,
No, you're trying to restrict law abiding citizens. Got it. Why in the world would YOU, bleeding liberal, EVER want to stop criminals. After all, the criminals really care about laws in books anyway. You have a tack sharp mind there slick. Got it.I'm not even really speaking directly of criminals.
I'm certainly glad it's NOT up to you then. You're a moron. YOU want "laws" to be that magic shield again. Tell you what, next time you're robbed at gun point as you say you were......carry a copy of the "law" you think will help you the most. Let's see how that works out for you there genius. :jerkit:Hell if it were up to me we'd be a STRICT country with lots of government power, more security in the streets, and harsher laws.
No, it's a dumbass idea right there with "guns kill people". Let me ask you something doom sayer, if someone "snaps" at a restaurant or bar......could they not kill you just as dead with a knife or a fork or hell even their bare hands? If they are demented like you think, then they "could" kill you with ball point pen if they wanted to. Should we take up forks, knives, and ball point pens now too? Maybe we should do a Psych evaluation on every single citizen every other day to be sure we're of right state of mind 24/7 too? You're a fool with your head in the sand. No wonder you've been robbed twice supposedly.By opening up the chance to bring guns into other places, this DOES NOT MEAN criminals will say OH IT'S LEGAL TEE HEE, they will do whatever obviously the law does NOT matter. I'm saying people who may be unstable, easy to snap, etc. could snap with a weapon that if it were not on them that wouldn't happen. SIMPLE FUCKING IDEA.
Now, would you rather be able to defend yourself if someone "snaps" or just be victim bleeding on the floor? Wait, wait.....YOU have the "law" shield, so nothing can hurt YOU......forgot about that.
Really? When? Is this one of those, "People say....." things? I challenge you. Show tangible real proof to prove your point. Bet you can't.It's happened before.
YOU have no clue what you're saying. That's the point. Are you saying that the "gov't" should choose for US when and where to carry? What makes THEM experts? How much crime happens on Capitol Hill exactly? How many Senators have ever been mugged? They have round the clock security remember. Easy to see the world through a glass bubble then.Half of you gun fanatics are too blind to see the downside to your little protection device. I agree with carrying a handgun in a car sometimes, on you, in your house, etc. I am not saying guns kill people. All I'm saying is by opening doors like this you can and will see an issue at some point. You know what it's like to have power, if a person gets extremely upset to the point they're boiling and they have a gun, they may pull it out to feel in power. However that person may be a good individual that may NOT have been carrying in that place if it were illegal because they don't want to commit a crime and they aren't a murderer. I don't see how you can't see what I'm saying.
I've never felt more "powerful" or "powerless" for that matter when carrying my gun. No different than putting gas in my car and checking the tire pressure before going somewhere. Just part of what makes me prepared to do something or go somewhere. 99% of the people that have seen me personally from IA have technically seen me "carrying". Did I walk around with my chest poked out and starting fights? Nope.
What you're implying is that people can't stand on their own two feet and be responsible for anything. On the other hand, you advocate bigger gov't, more "laws", and stricter life. Hmmmm, sounds like Russia or maybe somewhere in the Middle East is the place for you then. They have flights there everyday. Catch one tomorrow. Nobody will miss you, I promise.
In this context, HOW? HOW do "laws" help keep us safer? Tell me. Inquiring minds want to know.As for laws, they DO help sometimes.
Listen butt munch, I'm old enough to be your father, so I sincerely doubt YOU have seen half of what I have. YOU think that because you've worked a corner it makes you a race car driver, and because you've been made some criminal's little bitch TWICE (supposedly) that you're an expert on crime? Give me a break. The only stupid one here is you little one. You post to post no matter the subject. I know it, you know it....everybody knows it.Maybe you just haven't been around the amount of people I have, who knows? You just truly sound blind and flat out stupid with all that complete useless and ignorant bullshit you just wrote.
You're wrong here yet again. Crime is higher now than when we had LESS laws and LESS guns. Criminals don't give a fuck about laws, so those of you that suggest more of the same will some how "help" are fools of the highest kind. Statistics prove it. Time proves it. Common sense proves it. Too bad you don't seem to have any. Which explains clearly why you have no statistics to prove your point, wasted your time in posting your babble, and painfully obviously have no common sense to speak of.
Thank you have a nice day.
I see where you're coming from.
The problem I have with most of the pro gun people is that they want all these rights to carry all types of guns and wherever they please without mandating any type of training in order to gain that right.
I am a GFL holder, but I dont carry b/c I believe I would do more harm than good without no real training at this current time. I am actually attending a 3 day tactical shooting class in July, even then I dont know if I will carry until more training.
I agree with this guy. I hardly ever do but this time I do, and he's right bout the negativity thing. I've never seen you post something positive or say something nice.
Ok, I'm going to bite. What kind of "harm" do you think you'll get into w/o any formal training?
Not necessarily defending anti-gun laws, but I can see his point.
People react differently under stress. While ONE person may calmly wait for a window of opportunity to take a robber out, others may 'panic' and start shooting wild west style. A stray bullet can travel very far, and unless you are a crack shot, you would be more likely to kill an innocent bystander than the actual robber himself.....
Also, with Guns, some people will rely on it for security vs. their own common sense. They will take more risks because they will think "dark alley? the fuck do I care... I be having a gun, fool !!!!". You give two persons a gun. One may understand it's power and keep in concealed and only as a means of protection. The other will look for an opportunity to actually use it.
I am all for a law that protects the American's right to protect himself. I am all for concealed carrying. I just don't think we should have a line at the local gun license office spanning 10 blocks giving away permits without proper training and screening, while screaming "peeeermiiittts ! Get yo peeerrmmiiitss !! Buy one, get one for your kid free!".
Look how easy it is for anyone to get a gun. Even the Time Squares bomb guy was able to get one LEGALLY.... go figure......
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