NEW GUN LAWS PASSED!

[Jaimecbr900]

I wouldn't of pulled the gun out on the guy if there is already a gun pointed at me. Guns can turn SOME "ordinary" people into morons. Not many, but having a powerful tool in your pocket at a time when something serious happens can make someone screw up. There's not just normal non killing and raging murders, you can kill or shoot someone in a fight, you could get robbed and have your gun stolen, then a real criminal has your loaded weapon to do God knows what. YOU may not ever snap, doesn't mean a depressed kid that has never hurt anyone wouldn't when he finds his girlfriend sleeping with another man. I can understand having a gun in your home locked up, but carrying everywhere and looking like a scared little man leads to other issues.

Obviously no matter what people will take guns to kill wherever, but not allowing them wherever COULD lower the chances of other issues with them. Every little bit counts.

Try as I might I just can't remember when the last time you posted something positive or remotely intelligent. You seem to thrive on being the contrarian. Seems to me that you post things just to get your own rocks off instead of actually having an actual thought.

Let me ask you and the rest of the idiots who think that "gun laws" protect us:

1. Go look up the definition of a "CRIMINAL". I'll help you guys out a little. They are by definition NOT going to ABIDE by the LAW. HMMMMMMMMM, so let's waste our damn time drafting "laws" they are going to wipe their ass with in the first place........HMMMMMMMMM, I feel safer already. Since that piece of paper "law" is going to be a magic shield when some thug tries to mug my wife, mother, grandmother, or myself. Yep, I'm gonna hold it up and say, "Hey, you're a FELON and aren't SUPPOSED to carry a gun. Put that gun down young man and leave me alone. The LAW says you can't carry a gun, so you gotta put it down....." Let's see just how far those "gun laws" HELP you when you NEED one to defend yourself. They weren't allowed to carry guns at Columbine or Virginia Tech either. How'd that work out? They both had your great campus police departments.

YOU keep your piece of paper as a magic shield, and I'll gladly keep my piece of steel as mine. Since you've been robbed twice and I NONE......guess yours is better than mine, huh? :jerkit:

2. Logic and solid research shows that criminals are MORE scared of being SHOT than going to jail. Think about that for a minute and let me know HOW restricting LAW ABIDING citizens is going to be a deterrent to "crime"? So you and the rest of the "gun laws work" fools want ONLY the criminals having guns? Gotcha. Great job.

3. It's uneducated people like you that perpetuate the myth that "guns kill people". No, you fools. PEOPLE kill people. The more you keep trying to live in a fantasy world, the more easy targets criminals have to pick from.

4. Wanna know something far more deadlier than a Licensed gun carrying citizen?......I'll give you a hint......you THINK you know about them, and you likely have a POS one.......yep, it's a CAR! CARS kill more people every day than guns ever do or will. Yet we voluntarily hand over the keys to a 3000 pound weapon to our own KIDS when we wouldn't ever dare hand them a handgun to walk out of the house with. How many 16 yr olds die on the roads every year racing and generally acting a fool? How many innocent people are killed by DUI drivers every day? You shoot a gun up in the air in your own backyard and you can get charged with a felony, yet you can be blato drunk and drive and you get a misdemeanor DUI. Which one do you think COULD kill more people? We make 16 yr olds, who don't know shit from shinola, drive through a few cones and around a quiet neighborhood street to deem them "capable" of driving a 3000 lb missile, yet morons like YOU want to worry about ME carrying my gun to dinner?


All of you fools that think that "gun laws" protect you from harm have your head in the sand. To be honest, keep it there. Maybe YOU will make an easier target for criminals than me or my family will. Matter of fact, police can't even protect you unless they show up in time.....and considering how under staffed and over worked they are, then YOU sit there and wait on them to come to your rescue. I'll stick to a more proactive approach.

[The Creeper]

Try as I might I just can't remember when the last time you posted something positive or remotely intelligent. You seem to thrive on being the contrarian. Seems to me that you post things just to get your own rocks off instead of actually having an actual thought.

Let me ask you and the rest of the idiots who think that "gun laws" protect us:

1. Go look up the definition of a "CRIMINAL". I'll help you guys out a little. They are by definition NOT going to ABIDE by the LAW. HMMMMMMMMM, so let's waste our damn time drafting "laws" they are going to wipe their ass with in the first place........HMMMMMMMMM, I feel safer already. Since that piece of paper "law" is going to be a magic shield when some thug tries to mug my wife, mother, grandmother, or myself. Yep, I'm gonna hold it up and say, "Hey, you're a FELON and aren't SUPPOSED to carry a gun. Put that gun down young man and leave me alone. The LAW says you can't carry a gun, so you gotta put it down....." Let's see just how far those "gun laws" HELP you when you NEED one to defend yourself. They weren't allowed to carry guns at Columbine or Virginia Tech either. How'd that work out? They both had your great campus police departments.

YOU keep your piece of paper as a magic shield, and I'll gladly keep my piece of steel as mine. Since you've been robbed twice and I NONE......guess yours is better than mine, huh? :jerkit:

2. Logic and solid research shows that criminals are MORE scared of being SHOT than going to jail. Think about that for a minute and let me know HOW restricting LAW ABIDING citizens is going to be a deterrent to "crime"? So you and the rest of the "gun laws work" fools want ONLY the criminals having guns? Gotcha. Great job.

3. It's uneducated people like you that perpetuate the myth that "guns kill people". No, you fools. PEOPLE kill people. The more you keep trying to live in a fantasy world, the more easy targets criminals have to pick from.

4. Wanna know something far more deadlier than a Licensed gun carrying citizen?......I'll give you a hint......you THINK you know about them, and you likely have a POS one.......yep, it's a CAR! CARS kill more people every day than guns ever do or will. Yet we voluntarily hand over the keys to a 3000 pound weapon to our own KIDS when we wouldn't ever dare hand them a handgun to walk out of the house with. How many 16 yr olds die on the roads every year racing and generally acting a fool? How many innocent people are killed by DUI drivers every day? You shoot a gun up in the air in your own backyard and you can get charged with a felony, yet you can be blato drunk and drive and you get a misdemeanor DUI. Which one do you think COULD kill more people? We make 16 yr olds, who don't know shit from shinola, drive through a few cones and around a quiet neighborhood street to deem them "capable" of driving a 3000 lb missile, yet morons like YOU want to worry about ME carrying my gun to dinner?


All of you fools that think that "gun laws" protect you from harm have your head in the sand. To be honest, keep it there. Maybe YOU will make an easier target for criminals than me or my family will. Matter of fact, police can't even protect you unless they show up in time.....and considering how under staffed and over worked they are, then YOU sit there and wait on them to come to your rescue. I'll stick to a more proactive approach.

So how did that ass raping feel, Simon?

[Elbow]

Try as I might I just can't remember when the last time you posted something positive or remotely intelligent. You seem to thrive on being the contrarian. Seems to me that you post things just to get your own rocks off instead of actually having an actual thought.

I'm speaking my opinions.

Let me ask you and the rest of the idiots who think that "gun laws" protect us:

1. Go look up the definition of a "CRIMINAL". I'll help you guys out a little. They are by definition NOT going to ABIDE by the LAW. HMMMMMMMMM, so let's waste our damn time drafting "laws" they are going to wipe their ass with in the first place........HMMMMMMMMM, I feel safer already. Since that piece of paper "law" is going to be a magic shield when some thug tries to mug my wife, mother, grandmother, or myself. Yep, I'm gonna hold it up and say, "Hey, you're a FELON and aren't SUPPOSED to carry a gun. Put that gun down young man and leave me alone. The LAW says you can't carry a gun, so you gotta put it down....." Let's see just how far those "gun laws" HELP you when you NEED one to defend yourself. They weren't allowed to carry guns at Columbine or Virginia Tech either. How'd that work out? They both had your great campus police departments.

You obviously don't really read or TRY to listen to what I'm saying.

YOU keep your piece of paper as a magic shield, and I'll gladly keep my piece of steel as mine. Since you've been robbed twice and I NONE......guess yours is better than mine, huh? :jerkit:

I didn't get anything taken. One time it was in my high school and I was pretty sure he wouldn't shoot me plus he was way too close. A simple punch and grab easily fixed that and he got arrested. The other I had nothing to give. lol

2. Logic and solid research shows that criminals are MORE scared of being SHOT than going to jail. Think about that for a minute and let me know HOW restricting LAW ABIDING citizens is going to be a deterrent to "crime"? So you and the rest of the "gun laws work" fools want ONLY the criminals having guns? Gotcha. Great job.

You're retarded. I NEVER said that.

3. It's uneducated people like you that perpetuate the myth that "guns kill people". No, you fools. PEOPLE kill people. The more you keep trying to live in a fantasy world, the more easy targets criminals have to pick from.

I know people kill people. You usually post smart posts on this forum and I have lost all respect, your true stupidity has just shown. I'm not going to bother explaining myself.

4. Wanna know something far more deadlier than a Licensed gun carrying citizen?......I'll give you a hint......you THINK you know about them, and you likely have a POS one.......yep, it's a CAR! CARS kill more people every day than guns ever do or will. Yet we voluntarily hand over the keys to a 3000 pound weapon to our own KIDS when we wouldn't ever dare hand them a handgun to walk out of the house with. How many 16 yr olds die on the roads every year racing and generally acting a fool? How many innocent people are killed by DUI drivers every day? You shoot a gun up in the air in your own backyard and you can get charged with a felony, yet you can be blato drunk and drive and you get a misdemeanor DUI. Which one do you think COULD kill more people? We make 16 yr olds, who don't know shit from shinola, drive through a few cones and around a quiet neighborhood street to deem them "capable" of driving a 3000 lb missile, yet morons like YOU want to worry about ME carrying my gun to dinner?


All of you fools that think that "gun laws" protect you from harm have your head in the sand. To be honest, keep it there. Maybe YOU will make an easier target for criminals than me or my family will. Matter of fact, police can't even protect you unless they show up in time.....and considering how under staffed and over worked they are, then YOU sit there and wait on them to come to your rescue. I'll stick to a more proactive approach.

I quit replying because of your true level of stupidity. You don't read or listen you just post. I never said if we make laws crime will go down, I'm not even really speaking directly of criminals. Hell if it were up to me we'd be a STRICT country with lots of government power, more security in the streets, and harsher laws.

By opening up the chance to bring guns into other places, this DOES NOT MEAN criminals will say OH IT'S LEGAL TEE HEE, they will do whatever obviously the law does NOT matter. I'm saying people who may be unstable, easy to snap, etc. could snap with a weapon that if it were not on them that wouldn't happen. SIMPLE FUCKING IDEA. It's happened before. Half of you gun fanatics are too blind to see the downside to your little protection device. I agree with carrying a handgun in a car sometimes, on you, in your house, etc. I am not saying guns kill people. All I'm saying is by opening doors like this you can and will see an issue at some point. You know what it's like to have power, if a person gets extremely upset to the point they're boiling and they have a gun, they may pull it out to feel in power. However that person may be a good individual that may NOT have been carrying in that place if it were illegal because they don't want to commit a crime and they aren't a murderer. I don't see how you can't see what I'm saying.

As for laws, they DO help sometimes.

Saying cars kill people and stuff, NO SHIT. I never said guns shoot off themselves and kill people and we should ban any firearms did I? No.

Maybe you just haven't been around the amount of people I have, who knows? You just truly sound blind and flat out stupid with all that complete useless and ignorant bullshit you just wrote.

[Jaimecbr900]

I quit replying because of your true level of stupidity.

Actually, you should quit replying to a thread you clearly know nothing about.....but wait......you do that all day everyday just to THINK people give a fuck about YOUR opinion (need I remind you of the "Let Simon (speaking in third person no less, which is uber gay) rate your car thread"? Who gives a flying FUCK what YOU think about anyone's car? Don't you drive a POS Sentra or something? If that's your credentials about "knowing" cars, then you're ill equipped there too. Oh, wait......I know....you're a corner flag guy at a track or something.....THAT makes you all knowing about cars too......:jerkit:

Now, let me take your yet again worthless post and prove to you just how stupid you are. Have seat litte one. Learn something for once.

You don't read or listen you just post. I never said if we make laws crime will go down,

Back pedal much? Then WHY make a law against guns then? So we can help the Ozone? Save the forests? What other reason would YOU, Simon-the-know-it-law-hater-of-everything, suppose the PURPOSE of "gun laws" be?

I'm not even really speaking directly of criminals.

No, you're trying to restrict law abiding citizens. Got it. Why in the world would YOU, bleeding liberal, EVER want to stop criminals. After all, the criminals really care about laws in books anyway. You have a tack sharp mind there slick. Got it.

Hell if it were up to me we'd be a STRICT country with lots of government power, more security in the streets, and harsher laws.

I'm certainly glad it's NOT up to you then. You're a moron. YOU want "laws" to be that magic shield again. Tell you what, next time you're robbed at gun point as you say you were......carry a copy of the "law" you think will help you the most. Let's see how that works out for you there genius. :jerkit:

By opening up the chance to bring guns into other places, this DOES NOT MEAN criminals will say OH IT'S LEGAL TEE HEE, they will do whatever obviously the law does NOT matter. I'm saying people who may be unstable, easy to snap, etc. could snap with a weapon that if it were not on them that wouldn't happen. SIMPLE FUCKING IDEA.

No, it's a dumbass idea right there with "guns kill people". Let me ask you something doom sayer, if someone "snaps" at a restaurant or bar......could they not kill you just as dead with a knife or a fork or hell even their bare hands? If they are demented like you think, then they "could" kill you with ball point pen if they wanted to. Should we take up forks, knives, and ball point pens now too? Maybe we should do a Psych evaluation on every single citizen every other day to be sure we're of right state of mind 24/7 too? You're a fool with your head in the sand. No wonder you've been robbed twice supposedly.

Now, would you rather be able to defend yourself if someone "snaps" or just be victim bleeding on the floor? Wait, wait.....YOU have the "law" shield, so nothing can hurt YOU......forgot about that.

It's happened before.

Really? When? Is this one of those, "People say....." things? I challenge you. Show tangible real proof to prove your point. Bet you can't.

Half of you gun fanatics are too blind to see the downside to your little protection device. I agree with carrying a handgun in a car sometimes, on you, in your house, etc. I am not saying guns kill people. All I'm saying is by opening doors like this you can and will see an issue at some point. You know what it's like to have power, if a person gets extremely upset to the point they're boiling and they have a gun, they may pull it out to feel in power. However that person may be a good individual that may NOT have been carrying in that place if it were illegal because they don't want to commit a crime and they aren't a murderer. I don't see how you can't see what I'm saying.

YOU have no clue what you're saying. That's the point. Are you saying that the "gov't" should choose for US when and where to carry? What makes THEM experts? How much crime happens on Capitol Hill exactly? How many Senators have ever been mugged? They have round the clock security remember. Easy to see the world through a glass bubble then.

I've never felt more "powerful" or "powerless" for that matter when carrying my gun. No different than putting gas in my car and checking the tire pressure before going somewhere. Just part of what makes me prepared to do something or go somewhere. 99% of the people that have seen me personally from IA have technically seen me "carrying". Did I walk around with my chest poked out and starting fights? Nope.

What you're implying is that people can't stand on their own two feet and be responsible for anything. On the other hand, you advocate bigger gov't, more "laws", and stricter life. Hmmmm, sounds like Russia or maybe somewhere in the Middle East is the place for you then. They have flights there everyday. Catch one tomorrow. Nobody will miss you, I promise.

As for laws, they DO help sometimes.

In this context, HOW? HOW do "laws" help keep us safer? Tell me. Inquiring minds want to know.

Maybe you just haven't been around the amount of people I have, who knows? You just truly sound blind and flat out stupid with all that complete useless and ignorant bullshit you just wrote.

Listen butt munch, I'm old enough to be your father, so I sincerely doubt YOU have seen half of what I have. YOU think that because you've worked a corner it makes you a race car driver, and because you've been made some criminal's little bitch TWICE (supposedly) that you're an expert on crime? Give me a break. The only stupid one here is you little one. You post to post no matter the subject. I know it, you know it....everybody knows it.

You're wrong here yet again. Crime is higher now than when we had LESS laws and LESS guns. Criminals don't give a fuck about laws, so those of you that suggest more of the same will some how "help" are fools of the highest kind. Statistics prove it. Time proves it. Common sense proves it. Too bad you don't seem to have any. Which explains clearly why you have no statistics to prove your point, wasted your time in posting your babble, and painfully obviously have no common sense to speak of.

Thank you have a nice day.