Quote Originally Posted by bu villain View Post
Yes there are huge differences (a few percent in DNA) between chimps and humans because they split millions of years ago. Practically the whole article is talking about when the split occured so how does it contradict my statement? Please present evidence of fossil records not fitting with the split because this article doesn't mention fossils at all.

Back to the original issue, I am really confused on what you are looking for as far as divergent species. It seems like you want to see two different species with the same DNA and that doesn't make any sense. As I asked before, is there a certain percentage difference in DNA you are looking for? Please give clear guidelines for what you are looking for.



I'd definitely like to check out that documentary. Until I do, all I can say now is that modern ape and chimp diets may or may not be similar at all to our common ancestor (which is neither ape nor human). Chimps and other apes have evolved over the previous millions of years just as humans. Ape diets most likely changed greatly over that time.




You seem to be confused with what the 'half' in half-life means. After one half-life there will be 50% of the original element remaining. After two half-lives there will be 25% of the original element remaining, not 0. It's exponential, not linear.



So even though we have methods that work for recorded history they suddenly become invalid any earlier than that? So you must be open to the idea that dinosaurs lived with humans, and that it's conceivable that the earth has only been around for a few thousand years since we are not able to determine dating in any meaningful way before that, right?



Show me something with more evidence than evolution and I'll gladly change my mind. Unfortunately I doubt many religious believers will say the same.



I think that's unfortunate. You should believe what has the most evidence for it, not just what you would like to believe is true. I have no reason to want to believe in evolution. If we found a human skeleton from 100 million years ago tomorrow I would not mourn the loss of evolutionary theory. It's simply the most plausable answer given the vast amounts of data we have. There is still much work to be done too!

Why shouldn't beliefs be changed based upon a forum conversation? If a discussion between people is not the time to reevaluate your beliefs then when is? I personally wouldn't be engaged in this conversation if I didn't think I could learn something new from you and thus potentially change my mind on something. I'm not here just to try to show you how smart I am.
Not much time with all of my work right now to type everything.

In response to your question: Show me where eveolution can be tracked conclusively from one existing animal species to another. Scientists have not been able to do this.
You are assuming that chimps split with humans. It has not been proven.

Watch the documentary - it puts forth that eating meat and cooked food is the only way to collect enough energy to sustain humans. Raw fruits are not enough.

Recorded history - your words - does not go back millions of years. Everything else is speculation with our current technologies.
Why would humans have to live with dinosaurs? Couldn't it be possible that dinosaurs lived in a different area of the world? But if you want to think that they were together, I suspect you are referring to Job 40. Yes, it sounds like a reference to a dinosaur - perhaps the current evolutionary theory is wrong, and some survived longer? After all, how could they have been able to describe a creature with the tail the size of a cedar tree? Since it comes from a religious book, we won't consider it - agreed?

I'm not telling you to believe in anything. If you wish to believe in something with an extremely low mathematical probability, that is up to you.
No, you shouldn't change your beliefs simply because of what one person puts to you. You should critically look at all input, and come to your own conclusion. I am not pushing you to believe in any religion, as it is completely faith-based, with minimal evidence.