Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
5speed- your right in the fact that we cant hold the devil responsible for everything that goes wrong. but neither is God responsible. look at it this way, in genesis God creates adam and eve. they are told what they can and cant do by God. they even have the blessing of being with God in the Garden and walking with Him, cant get much closer than that. so how is it then, that the devil was able to tempt them and cause them to fall? did God create them to sin? no. we each as humans have a fault in us to sin. we as men are naturally selfish and think of ourselves first. we live to please ourselves above all else. look at all the mass genocides that have occured in history, they were done all in some gods name or belief but in all reality it was done to further these peoples goals, ambitions, and greed. they used God as an excuse. God is not the author of evil, we are, all we need is a little push in the wrong direction from the devil ( temptation ) and we jump all over it
God created us knowing we would sin. In one of the videos you posted it even states that in Psalms I believe that God knows everything in lamens terms. There he created us knowing that we had a flaw therefore God had a flaw due to him being the one creating us. I think as humans we like to think that God is perfection in all that is good, but I think he has flaws just like anyone else. And at the same time God cant even begin to fit in our minds.

Quote Originally Posted by geoff View Post
i would like to further add that God has no flaws, we as people do. and as such we tend to blame bad things on God saying, " if He is all loving or all powerful why didnt He do this or stop that?" instead of asking the question, " why would one human do this to another". its a pretty messed up day when we blame tragedy on God but then take human life without even so much as feeling remorse. we are the flawed ones, not God.
I address humans also. I am not blaming everything on God, just stating that God, Devil, or human, all should be held accountable.