Quote Originally Posted by admin
ok we are all born into sin so how is this different where does it state in the bible all birth defects are not GODs creations???
Youre kidding right? Rather then ask me the same question over and over why dont you study the Bible for yourself, its all there. Its gives a very clear account of Creation and how all things were created good & perfect. It also clearly teaches where sin came from and the effects of sin and how it will plague all of mankind until redemption is complete. Its all there for anyone who truly wants to know.

Quote Originally Posted by admin
you can be perfect christians and still have a hermaphrodite baby or a kid w/ down syndrome.
Whats your point? You yourself said we are all born into sin...simply put, we are all born WITH the effects of sin. Read for example the ten commandments...who does it say will suffer from our iniquities?
Answer - our children, grand shildren, great grand children etc etc etc

Fact is we ALL...all earthly mankind are suffering FROM Adam and Eves trangression and the introduction of it into this world..and this includes retardation, birth defects, cancer, heart attacks, hermaphrodism, mental illness, jerrys kids....etc etc etc etc etc

Your making something complicated that is in fact very simple.
God created perfection, mans CHOICE screwed it up....for ALL of us.