hermaphrodites where do they go?

[4dmin]

ok we are all born into sin so how is this different where does it state in the bible all birth defects are not GODs creations???

you can be perfect christians and still have a hermaphrodite baby or a kid w/ down syndrome.

[metalman]

ok we are all born into sin so how is this different where does it state in the bible all birth defects are not GODs creations???

Youre kidding right? Rather then ask me the same question over and over why dont you study the Bible for yourself, its all there. Its gives a very clear account of Creation and how all things were created good & perfect. It also clearly teaches where sin came from and the effects of sin and how it will plague all of mankind until redemption is complete. Its all there for anyone who truly wants to know.

you can be perfect christians and still have a hermaphrodite baby or a kid w/ down syndrome.

Whats your point? You yourself said we are all born into sin...simply put, we are all born WITH the effects of sin. Read for example the ten commandments...who does it say will suffer from our iniquities?
Answer - our children, grand shildren, great grand children etc etc etc

Fact is we ALL...all earthly mankind are suffering FROM Adam and Eves trangression and the introduction of it into this world..and this includes retardation, birth defects, cancer, heart attacks, hermaphrodism, mental illness, jerrys kids....etc etc etc etc etc

Your making something complicated that is in fact very simple.
God created perfection, mans CHOICE screwed it up....for ALL of us.

[4dmin]

who does it say will suffer from our iniquities?
Answer - our children, grand shildren, great grand children etc etc etc

birth defects are nothing more than an example of this?

Ok so we established we are born in sin; how can a freak such as this live as a christian? i would assume they can not?

[metalman]

birth defects are nothing more than an example of this?

yes among many other things

Ok so we established we are born in sin; how can a freak such as this live as a christian? i would assume they can not?

Same way anyone else can. How does a guy with one ball, or one kidney, or one arm, or one lung, or in a wheel chair, or one eye, or three eyes, etc etc
live as a christian?

By the grace of God and by his power. At least thats what the Bible says.

As for hermaphrodites, I'd be careful calling such people "freaks"
They are in fact usually either male or female which can be determined by X / Y chomosome testing. They just have malformed parts. All fetus's start with the same "equipment", normally at a certain time in development it changes because of chemical influence to either male or female. When that chemistry is screwed up you can get a hermaphrodite. One problem is, years ago chomosome testing was not possible and mistakes were made.

[4dmin]

yes among many other things



Same way anyone else can. How does a guy with one ball, or one kidney, or one arm, or one lung, or in a wheel chair, or one eye, or three eyes, etc etc
live as a christian?

By the grace of God and by his power. At least thats what the Bible says.

As for hermaphrodites, I'd be careful calling such people "freaks"
They are in fact usually either male or female which can be determined by X / Y chomosome testing. They just have malformed parts. All fetus's start with the same "equipment", normally at a certain time in development it changes because of chemical influence to either male or female. When that chemistry is screwed up you can get a hermaphrodite. One problem is, years ago chomosome testing was not possible and mistakes were made.

yes a little XXY and you have yourself a Clam & a Wang... but how can they live as a christian b/c any sexual relations and they would be having sex w/ the same sex... get me?

i guess they could be a nun/priest

[metalman]

yes a little XXY and you have yourself a Clam & a Wang... but how can they live as a christian b/c any sexual relations and they would be having sex w/ the same sex... get me?

Well actually not because they are either male OR female...not both.
As stated, they only have certain malformed parts.

If we cut off your balls and installed a clam in your taint you'd still be the same person, the same being you are now...you'd just have screwed up parts.

My wife has taken care of such people. They usually know exactly what they are just like you and I do, regardless of their physical problems.

[4dmin]

Well actually not because they are either male OR female...not both.

that is not always true: http://www.angelfire.com/ca2/BornHermaphrodite/

by the way where is your wife a nurse?